Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

[Rbishop]

LMAO...

 

[catfish69hunter]

LMAO...

OMG way to go HN you got the old crab to chuckle wow

 

[dirtydawg10]

Well I'm not surprised about HN. He has some other things on his mind right now I suspect.... HN actually UD'd last game which is why I am saying this.

Hey folks! I'm here and finally read up. Like I said in the signup I am out of town until a week after tomorrow and time is at a premium. I really think my vote is in a good place for now, but I may be willing to switch to Eddie or Piggy based on what others have pulled up and already commented on.

I'll try to get back on before night and read any additional posts.

See I told you...^^

Well, try real hard to put your finger on it cause i would like know.
I did not realuze I "jumped" on voting JL, I put my thoughts out there and voted where my best bet was at that time. Now that the posting is starting to pick up there may just be a little more to go on.

As far as Piggy - maybe a little fishy but a noob so not sure how it will pan out.

Eddie, again a noob but a very annoyingone that seems to enjoy confusing the town instead of helping - not a good thing...will see how he plays (if he decides to post again!)

3L - not posting which seems very odd considering the last game. Perhaps evil and afraid to slip up? Very possible, but will prob UD anyway so will not waste anymore time thinking about him for now.....

Gah! More thoughts later ----I have to go!
(OMG! am I creating a list!??!) :eek3:

Don't worry so much Noods...I'm looking.

 

[dirtydawg10]

This post was by Noodles just around 9:30pm est last night.

^^^ I agree. 3L will prob UD so it would be a wasted vote. Right now the only people that seem "fishy" are V2K and Eddie......not much to go on, but I guess that is typical for nightfall one....just seems like such a waste.

Then in less than 3hrs the three posts below happened.

The above was in reply to Piggy



then you go on to say, making a list is pointless, after reaming piggy out for not giving any reasons, even just a hunch.

So, I'm gathering that you think there is some acceptable middle ground for just how much reasoning behind a vote is enough, but not too much? So she put out a scaled list...I've done it before, more to organize my own thoughts than anything else. Even if the whole thing is based on hunches.

You are playing farily aggressively JL, but the whole "well if you don't give a reason then its not helful", then "well thats just silly, you're list has too much information so its not helpful" is pretty contradictory. I vote to lynch JL.

a vicious attack on me.why?i'm just a noob without a clue,and an anoying one at that!The hunch thing was just to see if you would take the bait.I believe you did..sooooo I vote to Lynch Jl

I am gonna go ahead and get my vote out there. I hate to wait til the last minute.
I vote to lynch JL

It may only be a hunch, but I think it is a pretty good one. He seems to be kicking a lot of bushes, which I guess is his style, but most of what he is accusing people of I don't agree with. (I will go back and post quotes later when I have a little more time) He seems to be playing pretty aggressively and yet his reason for voting against Jpap was for the use of an evil smilie.........
My other option at this point is Eddie but I also do not want to vote a noob on the first night. Being night one there usually is not much to go on so that is where my vote is for now.....

Yes Noodles I do think that was jumping on quick. You were the third on too. I think I just did put my finger on it.

 

[dirtydawg10]

Let me clarify my post above. Noodles posted last night that her main suspects were V2K and Eddie. Then earlier today within 3 hrs of each other 3 votes for JL. The last of whom was Noodles.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Sorry for being MIA today, guys. We had breakfast with Santa this morning, and are decorating the house and tree with the kids this afternoon. I'll hopefully be on sporadically before nightfall tonight.

@JL

JL, I know that folks have already questioned you for attacking FD's list, but I have a question for you.

In this post, you say that the sad part of FD's list is that she's being serious. That would imply to me that you're saying Brandy believes what she's written about each person, which would seemingly make her innocent in your eyes, as if she were scum, it would have been made up (ie, not serious), right?

A detailed list like that on day one? You have to be joking. The sad part about your list is that you are being serious. It is day one.

Your reasons and ranks serve no purpose. You have barely even particapated and then break out this scaled list. A day one scaled list. Based on what? The only purpose I see for this list is to create confusion. It is non-helpful because it is not based on anything besides day one posts. Have you even voted? The people that hold on to their vote until late into the day are the ones that harm the town the most. Place a vote. It is okay to change it. All those thoughts and no vote?

I would like to see more interaction from Brandy and not some sort of hit and run scaled list. The closer nightfall comes with a shortage of vote, the more everyones votes are spread out. I hope others place votes soon.

Now in this follow-up post you mention that one of the reasons that you are bothered by FD's list are you don't recall her doing a scaled list on day one... this seems to be saying that the list is tweaking your radar, and that FD might be scum.

I am bothered by the scaled list because I almost 100% disagree with what it states.

I am bothered by a scaled list on day one because there is no voting history to base anything on.

I am bothered by the scaled list on day one because I have never seen Fire do a day one scaled list and she has not posted much to that point.

I am bothered by the scaled list because after everything is said and done, she does not place a vote.

I am not defensive at all. I am not even bothered I am a 7. The reason I am a 7 is a joke. I think someone that is a 5 agreed with my statement about rb tweaking roles. I think others agreed. I have not stated "I think rb would make so-and-so the grinch". I stated that the roles could be tweaked. I will pull the post. I can think of much better reasons to be a 7. I could have been a 3 on the list, I would still be bothered by the list.

You've brought much attention to the list, but seem to be standing on the fence about it.... saying that Brandy believes her list (implying IMO that she's innocent), but at the same time questioning her motives, in saying that she's never done one on Day One (implying that she's done something scummy here).

What bothers you more? The fact that you disagree with the list, or the fact you can't recall FD doing a scaled list on day 1?

 

[noodles62]

Let me clarify my post above. Noodles posted last night that her main suspects were V2K and Eddie. Then earlier today within 3 hrs of each other 3 votes for JL. The last of whom was Noodles.

Well, in my mind that just shows that more than one person is seeing something off kilter here. Whether I was the first, second or third on makes no difference to me..if I waited til later to cast my vote, I probably would have been accused of "jumping on the train".
Oh, and look, Mad seems to have JL on his radar........makes me feel even better about my vote. Could it be that those of you defending him are the evil scum protecting eachother?

And BTW Eddie and V2K still dont look good, but again....I will let them slide night one and see how they shape up tomorrow.

 

[jpappy789]

I think the people trying to find out who were who in other mafia games,probably are evil elfs,idk just my own opinion.

Really? Are you sure about that?

I'm going to keep away from voting newbs on night one because I have no way of reading them since I haven't seen their play before. All bets are off on night 2 though.

I agree I have followed this for a while now because too often we lynch an innocent newb night 1. Is it really worth putting up one for the lynch just because one of the three might be evil?

I have DD leaning more evil the more I think about V2K and then DD posts, the more I want to lynch DD. I will say if V2K comes up evil, I will vote DD and if DD comes up evil I will cote V2K.

If I change, I most likely will change from jpap to DD. jpap did start something about past roles and then claims it had no merit. Odd thing to start, seems to me he was trying to get others on some sort of witch hunt and was going to then step away.

But you started to jump on when I first asked. I have no doubt in my mind that if I didn't look into it further and noodles or someone else came back saying that she was mafia in a certain game that you would have jumped right onto me.

Wow a whole lot said in the last few hours but no real content. I would have to say that right now most of the mafia is laying low letting the town turn round and round on itself.

JL your digging hard to find something and some pays off and some is just junk ends.

Noodles your content so far has not had much more than chit chat and self defense.

DD your deflecting a lot of stuff and trying to get people to look the other way. When I played agains you and you were evil you played better than that so I believe that your leaning innocent.

As for the noobs they are playing like noobs and showing more than they should. My biggest concern right now is Eddie. So with that said IDK if there is a clear choice right now so I'm staying were I am.

A pretty blanket statement right there. Why state something that appears so obvious?

If you read my past games you will note the confusion follows me...sad but true. Like I said I must have been blond in a previous life. I post my thoughts and then after I think about it more - I come back and be honest. figure its best cause somebody will call it out anyway. maybe this is not good playing strategy but I guess I am doof.

Woah, did you really just say that? Do you really lie that often???

A detailed list like that on day one? You have to be joking. The sad part about your list is that you are being serious. It is day one.

Your reasons and ranks serve no purpose. You have barely even particapated and then break out this scaled list. A day one scaled list. Based on what? The only purpose I see for this list is to create confusion. It is non-helpful because it is not based on anything besides day one posts. Have you even voted? The people that hold on to their vote until late into the day are the ones that harm the town the most. Place a vote. It is okay to change it. All those thoughts and no vote?

I would like to see more interaction from Brandy and not some sort of hit and run scaled list. The closer nightfall comes with a shortage of vote, the more everyones votes are spread out. I hope others place votes soon.

Brandy always puts out lists and while I don't agree with a lot she says I think posting that a list on day one is stupid is actually quite stupid. If she put it in paragraph form would you have made such a big deal out of it? No, you would have just tried to counter her arguments. Instead you focused on the fact that it was a list...makes no sense to me.

I hate first day voting. Not much to go on. I'm not sure how much I can be on today so will go ahead and put in a vote.

I vote to lynch 3L

It is very odd that he's posted in at least two other threads since the game began and not even a peep in this one. It makes me wonder if he's the lone evil elf and doensn't know how to play the role. He may UD in which case I will change my vote later.

This is only the 2nd time I've played w/Noodles and the first she was voted out early as an evil so I can't say I know how she plays but it seems she's fidgety though she has tried to explain her errors.

John seemed fidgety in the beginning also but I have played w/him b4 when he was innocent and going after pple or "kicking weasles". He can be quite relentless going after anything that moves...but it could be an evil trying to lead others astray. Haven't decided yet.

If I recall correctly it is not unusual for Brandi to put out early lists. I keep notes at home too w/the list of players and jot down little things here and there just to keep myself organized, but atm I don't have enough to publish it. And Brandi, I would be much more concerned about you if you were leaning me innocent. I'm used to not being trusted, lol.

That's exactly my thoughts on JL.

Here are some quotes from jpap,

First he asks a simple question -



She answers -



I chime in (and stir it up a little) -



Now jpap states he was wondering and interested, but it doesn't determine anything -



I chime in again, stirring it up -



Then I ask jpap basicly the same thing he asked noods -



Now, jpap who was just wondering and was interested, looks through the games she has played. After he says that it doesn't matter. Why research it and then call her a liar, if it doesn't matter? I also get an answer to my question, glad he is being "honest". -



Now jpap discovers noods had been evil before (as she claimed) -



dawg points out she was evil before (posted at the same time as jpap) -



My response to the "lying" (posted while jpap was posting) -



I note that it was 3 games ago when noods was evil -



Here jpap explains his mistake, but never really addresses the fact that he called noods a liar or why he continued to persue it if it doesn't determine anything.



I see this as a sign of jpap's evilness because he persued even after he discredited it.

This is my case on jpap. It is weak at best, but of concern to me.

To the part in bold: Where did I flat out call her a liar??? I simply said that based on what I looked into I couldn't find a time where she was evil then I asked how she came up with the thoughts of her being evil. Never once did I say she lied. Also, I don't remember the last time I was evil but I think it was a 50/50 game of sorts. Why don't you go back and research it? Oh that's right, you cant because if you did you would be a hypocrite and that wouldn't look good.

a vicious attack on me.why?i'm just a noob without a clue,and an anoying one at that!The hunch thing was just to see if you would take the bait.I believe you did..sooooo I vote to Lynch Jl

Oh boy...do you really think people are going to fall for that? Baiting by a vet is always a suspicious cover up for a mistake but by a newb, that just seems unreasonable, right? No.

I am suprised to see noods vote for me. I expected DD to vote my way and maybe V2K. My vote staying on jpap has nothing to do with the evil smile. I think I posted why my vote was on him and I have showed a willingness to change it.

I think I have fallen victim to being too vocal on day one and can blame that on my demise. I hope that me having three votes does not put all of the attention on me and players stop posting their thoughts. I am curious of who else votes on me and those that don't who they vote for and why.

I will not change my play just because I have a few votes.

Nice, a backup plan...

Can you see after he says it does not matter, but then goes and researches it, after you gave an answer. That is why I posted the long quotes. If it did not matter, why did he take the time to reasearch it and call you a liar. If it had no importance, then why look into it?

I agree with you and think that past roles gives an indication of how people might be playing this game. Not if they have been given a role this game because of their past roles (or lack of).

1. I've already answered that a million times but you seem so obsessed with it...why do you feel the need to defend your vote every single time it is brought up?

2. If you don't think past roles serve a purpose for determining who might have a good chance of being evil now then why did you think my initial question was a good one? A see some back peddling...

Let me clarify my post above. Noodles posted last night that her main suspects were V2K and Eddie. Then earlier today within 3 hrs of each other 3 votes for JL. The last of whom was Noodles.

Very interesting point. As much as I want to vote JL I really don't want to as noodles and piggy make me uneasy. Sploke, I'm not sure of as of now obviously because he hasn't posted much but has made some decent points.

3L is an odd case atm, but I'm not going to make a guess as to what he is. Mad and plant voting 3L is understandable but I'm not sure if I agree with it right now. I'm not a fan of voting a possible UD at any time and I've used that strategy in the past when I was evil. Just something I'm thinking about.

DD has been defensive but nothing new. She does that almost every game and I would need more before I called her scum.

Eddie and Virt are newbs but the fact that they came out right away and voted is odd, especially as it was both for DD. But I'm giving them a pass.

Cat has posted some good thoughts but then some stuff I'm a little iffy on.

Hooked hasn't said anything controversial enough to comment on. Same really goes for Fire and Dawg, except he is leaning more towards innocent right now for me just based on his helpfulness.

Based on that I vote to lynch Noodles let's see what comes of that. I'm sure JL will use this in my face...so bring it on.

 

[piggy67]

Well pig what made you jump onto jl and not anyone else? I want a full explanation of the reason behind his evilness. give me posts quotes and anything else you can find. Also as for me being an evil team mate with him you must be joking if you look at it plain as day I have looked at everyone even Jl and as you see from my posts he is not clear from my vision either. You just are standing out there more because your vote is "on a hunch" then your backing off that "hunch" you dont know quite what to do and your posts are spaced out in time as though you needed to ask the proper way to put what you should say.

wait,which is it,you say i stand out because i said i had a hunch about Jl,well take some time to read other ppl's post,i'm not the only one who had a hunch and voted on said hunch.you want a full explanation,didn't you just say i voted on a hunch.hence there would be no explanation,but i have stated my reasons,and as far as backing off my hunch,did you see who i voted for?

 

[noodles62]

Quote:
Originally Posted by noodles62
If you read my past games you will note the confusion follows me...sad but true. Like I said I must have been blond in a previous life. I post my thoughts and then after I think about it more - I come back and be honest. figure its best cause somebody will call it out anyway. maybe this is not good playing strategy but I guess I am doof.

Woah, did you really just say that? Do you really lie that often???


I was not saying that I was lying - I said (meant) that after I realize I have made a mistake, I own up to it by being honest about my mistakes....