Mafia #44 Christmas At ACville

TOLD YOU I WAS INNOCENT. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Go GRINCH GO!!!
 
This night was crazy. I think of all the votes on 3L Noodles is most suspect. It put 3L in the lead. Also the fresher footprints in the snow could be a clue. This along w/my previous thoughts about Noodles is enough to warrant a vote.

I vote to lynch Noodles


TOLD YOU I WAS INNOCENT. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Go GRINCH GO!!!
Ummm Eddie, you were not lynched by the town tonight. The Grinch put a hit on you as Dawg has stated.
 
Just a quick sneak and a chance to post. Don't worry I work all day tomorrow and will be able to post lots.

I am glad 3L showed up and voted. I really think it got to a point where there was really no choice, but to vote for 3L. Him showing up and not UDing was good for the town. I will not hold voting for 3L against anyone. I moved my vote on him and really had no idea what to do if he did not show up.

While noods and DD are both good suspects. I want to turn to the two remaining noobs. They both came out guns blazing, both seemed on some sort of mission and both seemed to play with only one person they were focused on. The fact that one of them was on me, right from the start is of concern to me. I also highly suspect the other one.

My top two suspects are pig and V2K. I think one of the two (if not both) are evil. I can understand the reasons why V2K could not be, but rb has in the past made slight changes due to circumstances. To stay away from that debate, I will vote for the pig.

I vote to lynch piggy67

I am more than willing to talk about noods and DD. I hope others talk about them, the noobs and whatever else that pops up (including me).
 
First off tonight sucked, Eddie I must say that early on you really looked coached and if you dont get a sour taste from this first game I would love to play with you again. Now on to buisness.

to lynch....

DD (1) virt 74

noodl (3) dawg 313 plnt 376 T3L 454

T3L (6) mad 204 jl66 338 jpap 410 ndle 416 DD 420 hk 434

jl66 (2) splk 282 pigy 298

piggy (2) cat 304 fire 310

jpap (1) ed 418


PMs as necessary...30 minutes...

First lets look at the way votes finally fell. Ok as we see T3L Caught the major windfall of their actions on the last minute joining the game and voting. I believe only 1 mafia joined in on the lynching of T3l and I believe that because the mafia knew that was a sinking ship as soon as he showed up. they let the town do the job for them.

Well...here's my thoughts on Eddie being hit. It seems to me it would be for one of two reasons. Since DD seems to have had the most interaction with him as of late it was to either set her up or to take her off the radar. If she is evil I can easily see her hitting Eddie so the excuse can be "Do you think I would be that dumb to hit Eddie when I was the one arguing with him". On the other hand if she is innocent it may be a good way to get more heat on DD. Since Eddie already had the heat on him for day two I'm leaning more with DD being evil but I'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Oh yeah...Noods is running a close second for me.

This night was crazy. I think of all the votes on 3L Noodles is most suspect. It put 3L in the lead. Also the fresher footprints in the snow could be a clue. This along w/my previous thoughts about Noodles is enough to warrant a vote.

I vote to lynch Noodles



Ummm Eddie, you were not lynched by the town tonight. The Grinch put a hit on you as Dawg has stated.

Now lets look at my next big thing. here we have what I feel is a major tell on the part of these 2 folks i just quoted. As we see they both voted for the same person for the first night. Then they come out after nightfall and jump right back to gunning for noodles. Now this is what I get from this, and its that these 2 are a communicating pair. Now I do not know for 100% that its the evil pair because I feel plant of all people would be a better vet than that to slip up like that but... who knows.

All I know is that I'm going back to look harder at these 2.
 
Hmmm I was sure that at least one of the two innocents lost last night was evil. But I guess 3l was gone either way and eddie was going to be close to tops today. So I agree with jl that a vote for 3l last night doesn't prove anything in my book.

Right now piggy, DD, and noods top my list.

To respond to DD...questioning excuses is valid but you just kept going and going. That's over the top to me.

I wish I could go back and respond to more things but multi quoting on an itouch is too hard...tomorrow then
 
Last post. I know I wasnt lynched by the town because you guys "Spared" me for one night. I would of been this time around because you guys had no faith. You would of messed up massively just admit it. Im still rooting for the Grinch and the Evils!! Because well nobody believed me so GO GRINCH GO!!!
 
A few things from yesterday that caught my eye...

Noodles, this quote below bothers me somewhat. That you justify your vote, based on the fact that JL popped onto my radar seems a little scummy. It looks like a possible mafia attempt to lay blame at someone else's feet, should the lynch go badly for the town.
Oh, and look, Mad seems to have JL on his radar........makes me feel even better about my vote. Could it be that those of you defending him are the evil scum protecting eachother?

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JL, you really surprised me yesterday. You seemingly did something that I don't ever recall you doing. It appears that you switched votes in an attempt to save yourself from the lynch block.

In this earlier quote you note that 3L is a possibly decent lynch candidate, but at the same time a possible UD also. Because of this, in your opinion, he's not really worthy of your vote. Makes sense to me.
I posted replies to 3L in both of the other mafia threads that he has posted in.

At this point he is a UD canidate. If he votes and avoids the UD, I might just have to vote for him.

This is a post after a few votes came your way.
I will not change my play just because I have a few votes.

Now here's your vote change to 3L. I believe that it came at a time when you were very close in votes (if not tied) with 3L. When others might have been considering getting off 3L because it looked like he may not show, you were getting on...apparently to make sure that 3L did UD, in your words. Looks like a complete reversal on your earlier thought re: 3L, and a clear attempt to save yourself.

I've seen lots of players vote to save themselves, but you're not one of them. Pretty sure I've seen you take a lynching in past games, even when you've had similar opportunity to save yourself. What gives?
On a serious note, jpap did not call noods a liar as I had posted.

My case on jpap is weak and not much of anything.

I retract my vote on jpapy789

If 3L votes, I am voting 3L, my guess is 3L will not vote unless it is right at nightfall.

Just to keep 3L from even thinking about voting:

I vote to lynch TH3RD_LEG.

I hate to waste it on someone that might UD, but I also do not want him to vote late and save himself. I think I have posted good reasons on why I suspect him. Besides him being a UD, I can't think of a reason not to vote for 3L.

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DD, I find this new 'taskmaster' attitude you've taken for this game to be quite unusual for you. I've played quite a few games with you... some you've been really involved, and others not so much.

Seems like with you, this game, that people are darned if they give excuses ahead of time, and darned if they don't. This puzzles me, as you've been at both ends of the spectrum in games, and your involvement doesn't normally seem to hinge on the role you've been assigned.

I'm concerned that you've found lots of time this wave to play this wave, and figure that you'll use it to toss some scum on those with less time.
huh??I find it odd when anyone throws up excuses to why they are not here for a full day after the fact.... don't you?
 
Interesting night. DD is peaking my radar right now. I seem to remember a few past games when she was evil, she tends to come up with some fairly strained reasons to explain peoples actions. As DD said, it would be pretty easy for the grinch to say, ok, we're going to hit eddie, you really get on him so when he turns up innocent it will just look like two innocents attacking each other because they don't know any better. Especially with the whole motocross thing...come on, does it really matter?

As far as eddie and TL being gone...neither of them were particularly helpful, so while it sucks as far as the numbers go, I don't think we're out any real profound analysis.
 
A few things from yesterday that caught my eye...

Noodles, this quote below bothers me somewhat. That you justify your vote, based on the fact that JL popped onto my radar seems a little scummy. It looks like a possible mafia attempt to lay blame at someone else's feet, should the lynch go badly for the town. Well, one would think it is natural to justify a vote when you are being questioned repeatedly on it.


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JL, you really surprised me yesterday. You seemingly did something that I don't ever recall you doing. It appears that you switched votes in an attempt to save yourself from the lynch block.

In this earlier quote you note that 3L is a possibly decent lynch candidate, but at the same time a possible UD also. Because of this, in your opinion, he's not really worthy of your vote. Makes sense to me.


This is a post after a few votes came your way.


Now here's your vote change to 3L. I believe that it came at a time when you were very close in votes (if not tied) with 3L. When others might have been considering getting off 3L because it looked like he may not show, you were getting on...apparently to make sure that 3L did UD, in your words. Looks like a complete reversal on your earlier thought re: 3L, and a clear attempt to save yourself.

I've seen lots of players vote to save themselves, but you're not one of them. Pretty sure I've seen you take a lynching in past games, even when you've had similar opportunity to save yourself. What gives?


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DD, I find this new 'taskmaster' attitude you've taken for this game to be quite unusual for you. I've played quite a few games with you... some you've been really involved, and others not so much.

Seems like with you, this game, that people are darned if they give excuses ahead of time, and darned if they don't. This puzzles me, as you've been at both ends of the spectrum in games, and your involvement doesn't normally seem to hinge on the role you've been assigned.

I'm concerned that you've found lots of time this wave to play this wave, and figure that you'll use it to toss some scum on those with less time.

This post was by Noodles just around 9:30pm est last night.



Then in less than 3hrs the three posts below happened.







Yes Noodles I do think that was jumping on quick. You were the third on too. I think I just did put my finger on it.

Let me clarify my post above. Noodles posted last night that her main suspects were V2K and Eddie. Then earlier today within 3 hrs of each other 3 votes for JL. The last of whom was Noodles.
I really see no reason why being the third one on is such a tell tale sign - again why I defended/justified my vote....

Well, in my mind that just shows that more than one person is seeing something off kilter here. Whether I was the first, second or third on makes no difference to me..if I waited til later to cast my vote, I probably would have been accused of "jumping on the train".
Oh, and look, Mad seems to have JL on his radar........makes me feel even better about my vote. Could it be that those of you defending him are the evil scum protecting eachother? Pointing out that others have JL on their radar so why all the heat on only me?

And BTW Eddie and V2K still dont look good, but again....I will let them slide night one and see how they shape up tomorrow.


not sure if that answers you satisfactorily or not but I just shortly woke up and need to get my coffee......more in a bit.
 
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