Somehow I highly doubt that...but I guess we wont know until the situation arises.
Mafia #51 - Mafia Citizens - The Play
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Somehow I highly doubt that...but I guess we wont know until the situation arises.
I agree she never suspected or indicated she suspected Zig, but if she is Pro Town then letting herself go down is losing a Townie, whereas saving herself leaves a shot at getting a Baddie. She said she had just gotten on the comp and was catching up, so it was only a last minute change because a candidate finally presented themselves that she could effectively vote on to save herself very near Nightfall. Again this is going on a good deal of faith on her part, but I don't believe saving yourself at any time is a scum-tell.
If I were such a suspicious player that the majority of the town was out to lynch me then I would not want to buy myself another day of suspicion at the cost of someone who I didn't believe to be a Scum. Maybe I just have a different way of looking at things.
Maybe that's because Colers official vote on Zig didn't come until a whopping 4 minutes before nightfall. She got hers in only 2 minute later. I guess we should expect Kash to have fortune telling powers then?
I would hardly call the lynching a majority. And for all we know Kash could actually be a good PR, who we woudln't want gone.
Whos up for running a tie between Plant and the next suspect to see if she jumps? LOL.
Jpappy, there's no twisting being done by me and there's no reason for me to lie.
In that long post of mine you bolded 2 sentences. In neither sentence did I say you made a connection between that post and me posting before the game started. What I said was this:
First bolded line:
"It "appears" that I received a PM because (1) jpappy made that suggestion when he was speculating about my comment to Red Severum back on Page 1."
You are the one who first suggested I must have gotten a PM... which is what I said in my post (Reference your post #86).
Second bolded line:
"See what I mean? Red's statement didn't jive with the timeline at all. And neither does jpappy's "guessing" that I posted early after receiving a PM from JL."
Red's statement didn't hold up to the actual timeline of events. Even Madcrawdad has had to (reluctantly) admit this. Furthermore, you speculating that I must have received a PM from JL doesn't fit given the actual timeline either.
Now you say I'm lying because I tried to correlate the two together. But nowhere in that post or the 2 bold lines you extracted did I make such a correlation.
Where have I said you made a connection between the two? I didn't. Where have I said you made a big deal out of it? I didn't say that either. I said you made a suggestion and were speculating (see bolded line #1). And you did. I also said that your guessing that I posted early after getting a PM. Which you did.
mostlycichlids
Cichlid Specialist
Why?
Same here I highly doubt your planning plant.
lol...that sounds logical....but you have to consider plants move to be scummy and I am sorry but who wouldn't save their selves esp if they were innocent. Only a scum wouldn't want to save theirself.
After the last few posts byt plant I retract my vote on TRS and I VOTE TO LYNCH PLANT
Definitely of interest, but a few things I'm considering:
Plantling's vote for her second candidate (saying that there were enough votes on Kashta) was a bad move, plain and simple. The thing is, I've seen others do the same thing, as town. I don't understand why, but they do it... Last game, Noodles (Communicating Innocent) did the same thing and I (as scum) was able to exploit it a little bit to help make her look scummy. So, I would need to see additional bad behavior from Plantling before voting her. Her last-minute, albeit late, vote change to Kashta was slightly redeeming.
Mad you admit to exploiting little things like last minute vote changes last game to make people look scummy. How can I be sure you aren't doing the same thing this time with Kash? Also how can you be confident of your vote with company like plantling and red? Both, in my book, right now are looking more and more suspicious. Neither have real good explainations for their vote. Plantling says her vote is based on Kash's last minute vote to save herself. (I am not sure how I woulda reacted in Kash's place) Am I supposed to believe that if I am lynched I should just take one for the team and doing anything other than that is considered anti-town? Red still seems to just have some weird personal vedetta against Kash since we were beat last game. Sorry, but just because she was a "bad guy" last time isn't a good reason for a vote this time around. Thoughts?
Plantling's vote for her second candidate (saying that there were enough votes on Kashta) was a bad move, plain and simple. The thing is, I've seen others do the same thing, as town. I don't understand why, but they do it... Last game, Noodles (Communicating Innocent) did the same thing and I (as scum) was able to exploit it a little bit to help make her look scummy. So, I would need to see additional bad behavior from Plantling before voting her. Her last-minute, albeit late, vote change to Kashta was slightly redeeming.
Mad you admit to exploiting little things like last minute vote changes last game to make people look scummy. How can I be sure you aren't doing the same thing this time with Kash? Also how can you be confident of your vote with company like plantling and red? Both, in my book, right now are looking more and more suspicious. Neither have real good explainations for their vote. Plantling says her vote is based on Kash's last minute vote to save herself. (I am not sure how I woulda reacted in Kash's place) Am I supposed to believe that if I am lynched I should just take one for the team and doing anything other than that is considered anti-town? Red still seems to just have some weird personal vedetta against Kash since we were beat last game. Sorry, but just because she was a "bad guy" last time isn't a good reason for a vote this time around. Thoughts?
Kashta show me where in this post I "speculate" that you posted early because you got a PM. I don't seem to see it...
On the contrary to your bolded statement above, Scum have more to lose so yes they will want to save themselves at any cost, especially when they know the other candidate is an innocent.
mostlycichlids
Cichlid Specialist
Ok, I am yet to see a good explanation of why plant tried to change last minute. A lot of excuses and a lot of fumbling going on...almost like they are back peddling. Only a person of scum and high power in my opinion would not back their decision, a laying low move IMO. Trying to not say too much and place blame on Kash as everyone seems to be doing. Red is still on my suspect list but plant seems to be hiding a whole lot and now laying low...typical of scum
I think I posted wrong in my last post so I wan to get it correct....
I retract my vote on TRS and I VOTE TO LYNCH PLANT
