Mafia 52: Killer Comes A Courtin' (The Play)

[IceH2O]

I wish JL was here to answer this. I'm going to post my thoughts just for discussions sake and so I can pull it for him to answer on Monday.

jm1212, you are going to vote for Luv????

How about Kash or AG?

They seem about the best two. Luv was not even on the wanted poster...

Here Ice points out that Agi visited jpaps profile page,



Seems to me that noods came to the only reasonable reason,



So why no vote for Agi?





I think Agi voted the first day,



I am on the fence, I am wondering why Ice and Luv are quick to go on Kash and give AG a pass.

I am trying to think who is (or was) the brains of the mafia. Was it jpap or FD? Is there someone else? That is two veteran players, random odds has to be that a noob is on there somewhere.

Here he asks Jm if he will vote Agi or Kash, we know he voted Kash then retreated to Dopey,while asking others why Agi. He even wondered why Luv and I voted Kash while giving Agi a pass.

g/o well i guess this is where i make my leave. when i signed up i was hoping it would go a little faster, but hey, it happens. i'll be on a cruise for the next 7 days, but i'll get back Thursday afternoon, maybe in time to make a vote if there is one on Thursday. there better not be though....you guys need to figure this out before then. there are probably only two or three of them left. g/o

noodles is a citizen.

dont know if im going to carry over my vote, or vote for someone else.

Have fun on the cruise Jm

Is jm1212 claiming to be the doctor? Is this why he was asking my thoughts on the doctor?

I am 100% okay with this claim and doubt anyone will say he isn't the doctor.

I take JM off my suspect list and have him and noods as innocent. I wish he would have investigated me. All the crap I gave him he could have at least investigated me.

For the record, power roles are often confused with mafia. I don't think this is a mafia ploy.

Jl why did you out the DR? Jm didn't come right out and say it but it was obvious from his post. I noticed it right away but didn't mention the Dr aspect.As you see I didn't even quote it as to not bring it to light he was the Dr.
I see no reason to have to have him clarify he was.


If JL and Agi were team mates I don't see why JL would bring him to the forefront, it would be easier for him to place doubt in other directions and let Agi slide back to the outer limits of town.

I need to go back and look into JL. Did he ever build a case against Kash? Kash never really did JL. She did put us as a team and it could be so if JL was lynched and mafia that the town would go after me next.

I wonder if JL didn't jump off Fire for 2 reasons. 1 if he jumped to me and I didn't jump he would have been the kill vote on an innocent.2nd if he jumped to me I would have jumped to him for the tie and if he died it would have cemented my innocence.


Just some thoughts I need to get out there and be able to reference later.

Unless Kash can convince me otherwise I'm staying put. I just don't know that given what I've looked over if JL is mafia or not. I'm hoping we're only looking for 2 but what if there are 3 and its Kash JL and Agi?

 

[noodles62]

Hi all. Sorry I haven't been around much. I won't be around at all today, but I should be back Sunday before nightfall. I have one thing that doesn't sit with me well and I want others thoughts on it. I am starting to believe that Kash isn't mafia. The reason being is this: If Kash was mafia why would she say about JL not being able to be hit the second nightfall because of the hits already being turned in. If she was mafia, she woulda known this wan't the case and been easily called on it (which she was by Ice). Why bring attention to herself and her possible partner in crime? To me, it doesn't make sense. I am starting to lean towards Kash not being mafia because of this.

I do agree with Dopehand about JL coming unglued when fingers were being pointed at Agass. I said something to the effect of the reason why Agass might have visited Jpap's profile page was to pm him to get the addy for the mafia chat board. He got very defensive about that. Seems a little odd for him to be caring so much about what others opinions are about Agass.

I disagree with this completely. I have not seen JL or anyone come unglued or defensive in regards to Agass. Here are John's posts regarding Agass. Not seeing any defense or "coming unglued"

jm1212, you are going to vote for Luv????

How about Kash or AG?

They seem about the best two. Luv was not even on the wanted poster...

He actually seems to be defending you, Luv!

Kash, this might be impossible for you to believe, but there is a chance that Ice and I are both innocent, it has happened before and it has come to the end.

Let's say you are innocent. Can the town spare an innocent at this stage of the game?

I have an hour left before I am away for the weekend.

Let's assume there are two mafia left and atleast one is on the wanted list. I think there are two, but could be wrong.

My top two (not including you) are Dope and AG.

I am willing to vote them. I am unwilling to vote JM, noods, Luv, Ice.

What do you got?

Again stating Agass is at the top of the lst...no defense or coming unglued

Since AG is not posting at all or even voting, I am guessing they are watching and are just clueless. If they are mafia, they are just a body and not much help. TRS is a body also.[/QUOTE]
Again, no defense.....:huh:

Here's an alternate idea for you!

I vote to lynch Dopehand.

The more you talk in circles the more I think you are mafia. The more I look at the voting and how the votes have landed, I am less convienced of Kash being mafia.

I completely forgot about TRS and AG is very forgetable. I do not know when AG visited jpap's profile, but the person that pointed it out (Ice) is unwilling to vote for AG because Ice wants to see Kash squirm. I know that players of the game check out peoples profiles. I am sure the mafia would know how to talk to each other and I have NEVER used a profile as a way to communicate to other mafia.

I have too much doubt on the other players and feel strongest about Dopehand.

Again not coming unglues, but does defend the visit to Jpaps profile. However what he said is very true....

Since I am a fairly simple person, I have no clue what you are saying.

From what I am able to translate you are asking me why do I care what order the mafia are lynched.

I am concerned about being quick to jump. You were a bad vote choice before because you were not that active. Now that you are active, you are a good lynch choice.

I am limited on my time, as my day is over and I will not be back until Monday at noon, I have to really look at things.

The reasons for not voting you are gone, but the reasons for voting you are still there.

I am unable to quote anything, due to my time being up, but I hope others follow me in lynching Dope.

Here he placed his vote for Dope, with reasons.

Luv, I am not seeing any coming unglued. Please quote some posts as i obviously have missed them. It makes me a little nervous that you are working hard to get another player in the spotlight with reeally no validation.....and in the process taking the spotlight off of Kash...

 

[noodles62]

OK - TRS is either mafia or a HUGE liability as a citizen!

It looks to me like JL is becoming desperate to point out who is mafia. How pointless, and the more you talk JL the more you look like mafia to me..

Is that not the objective of the game? :wall:

"TRS I am undecided on. I certainly do not trust him at all."
Why? Because your mafia and you know I innocent? Care to explain more?

More wisdom....

noodles62-Still think she is mafia, communcating with luv bugs.
Luvbugz-^ mafia
Kashta- Innocent this game, could change though
Dopehand- innocent
Agassizii- don't no, doesn't post. probably mafia but who the heck knows.
IceH2O-innocent for now, got FD
rich311k- 50/50 some things mafia, some innocent.
johnlarson66- innocent for now, helping out the town.

Bad mafia player or citizen without a clue? You decide.

What where?

after thinking, yes I know I changed my mind, but I am trying to find where the doctor investigated and just reading, I am thinking JL is mafia. Why, no one has really pointed the finger at him and made him choke. I also am thinking why would luvbugs be so easy to tell she is mafia? I think she might be a innocent.

Which is why I think he is mafia. If I get lynced or hit, I blame it on JL. He is going to say I am bad at this game etc, but he is playing this to well to be a innocent. He knows who to just point at, and he knows who to grill. I would pick out quotes, but almost every post he only hits certain people.

Playing too well to be innocent! Well, that sure does sound like mafia to me! Perhaps he (& toerhs) know who to point fingers at and grill, Because he actually reads the thread!!!"

Yes ice I changed, I listened and needed to go reread, and now I come back with conclusions. If you are innocent, we need to get rid of the best player/ best mafia.
I vote to lynch johnlarson

(but only if you are innocent, right?)


TRS was on the wanted poster, his playing is very erratic and seemingly clueless and uninformed. Scary no matter which way you look at it. He has definately moved up on my list.....

 

[noodles62]

I will most likely not be back until later this evening. Hopefully I will some feedback.

 

[Dopehand]

Since AG is not posting at all or even voting, I am guessing they are watching and are just clueless. If they are mafia, they are just a body and not much help. TRS is a body also.

After JM puts a vote on him, he tries to talk him out of it and starts implying "ag isn't useful if mafia" and then quickly replies to my post with a vote for me. I wouldn't say he is outright defending Ag, it's like subtle, quite possibly desparate shenanigans. That is why AG+JL top my list.

Though I will say if I'm genuinely off base with Ag, then TRS suddenly backing my opinion would lead me towards him instead. Taking into the account that I might be wrong, I'd rather be wrong about AG than JL.

 

[The Red Severum]

Noodles your clueless. I voted for JL because he is mafia, look how he avoids some players. Noods why are you trying to take the attention off of JL and put it on me? Right now I believe dope and ice are innocents. Kash, can you do something productive and take your vote off yourself and vote for JL. I know this is taking a big leap and some of you may think I am crazy, but usually I am right when I take a leap at someone. (as in kash the last two games)

I am mafia because I agree with your statement dope? The innocents are in huge trouble, why, because we were at a huge disadvantage in the start by not communcating.

Follow me and lynch JL. If worse comes to worse and I am hit, then you know who to hit. But then again, if I am lynced you will see I am innocent, and still not believe me.

 

[noodles62]

Noodles your clueless. I voted for JL because he is mafia, look how he avoids some players. Noods why are you trying to take the attention off of JL and put it on me? Right now I believe dope and ice are innocents. Kash, can you do something productive and take your vote off yourself and vote for JL. I know this is taking a big leap and some of you may think I am crazy, but usually I am right when I take a leap at someone. (as in kash the last two games)

I am mafia because I agree with your statement dope? The innocents are in huge trouble, why, because we were at a huge disadvantage in the start by not communcating.

Follow me and lynch JL. If worse comes to worse and I am hit, then you know who to hit. But then again, if I am lynced you will see I am innocent, and still not believe me.

Number one: I am not clueless.
Number two: I feel I can trust John more than I can trust you.
I am not trying to take the attention off of John, I simply do not agree with you nor trust your so called judgement. To be honest, you scare the hell out of me and there is no way I would follow your lead or advice.
I do not "know" if you are mafia or not, but I do not agree with your line of thinking and feel that you are dangerous.
" usually I am right when I take a leap at someone"; and we should be follow you because of your experience and knowledge? I don't think so....

 

[Dopehand]

I wouldn't say I necessarily believe you are mafia, but I could almost see you distancing yourself from JL with these comments. Perhaps knowing your input wouldn't be taken for it's word, maybe you are subtly dispersing doubt by transferring your attention to JL? This could serve to indirectly weaken the arguments against his innocence...........

 

[noodles62]

I wouldn't say I necessarily believe you are mafia, but I could almost see you distancing yourself from JL with these comments. Perhaps knowing your input wouldn't be taken for it's word, maybe you are subtly dispersing doubt by transferring your attention to JL? This could serve to indirectly weaken the arguments against his innocence...........

Wah?! Maybe in layman terms . I ain't got your edumacation.....

 

[The Red Severum]

Of coarse I am distancing myself away from JL, he is mafia! doh and I don't understand the rest of what you said.