Mafia #53.5 Rock the Vote

Gosh what a lot of posts and such little time...

Noodles- you take posts as directed towards yourself on a thread where I am quoting JPap. I was refering to Jpap as the glue between LuvBugz and Zaffy not yourself.


Ogre- I think he is innocent... do I know for sure... of course not... am I playing it partially as a joke? Of course- I think the whole stance on me being a suspect because I stated early on I didn't think Ogre was mafia is amusing- it's kind of an ongoing joke for me.

I suspect he is innocent because there seems to be a large number of suspects who seem to be painting him as innocent- and he seems to be going for people who to me appear to be Mafia.


JPap- As for the "I've been playing the OMGUS rule all game"- day one I voted Zaffy... Zaffy has never voted for me. Day two I voted JPaps- Pappy never voted for me. Day three- the only person on my list who voted for me before I voted for her was Noodles.

So don't be rediculous. It's not my only strategy- I have had reasoning beyond that. I wouldn't be so certain if that was my only strategy.

Wycco, if you saw what I quoted you would know that I never said you OMGUS'ed your votes. You only put certain players (ie. Rich and plant) on your short list because they did not agree with what you were saying about me, Zaffy, and Luv. That's an OMGUS in my opinion...


As for my comment that Ogre and Rocker should be investigated if I turn out to be Mafia... BY END OF DAY YOU'LL SEE I'M NOT... but if I were Mafia- Rocker and Ogre should be prime candidates too since- there seems to be an opinion amongst most of you that I am being coached by Rocker and Ogre.

If I were you- and I saw me being lynched and found guilty of being Mafia- I would look at Rocker and Ogre.

However, as you'll soon find out- I'm not guilty.

Why would an innocent even point out who to look at if they were found mafia? An innocent would know for a fact that they would not be mafia therefore what is your reason for suggesting we look at Ogre and rocker? All you are doing is trying to confuse the town by naming players.

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ICE asked me to rate people
As for rating people. Day 1 and 2 I was less sure- but decided to make statements on hunches and watch what happened. It is the reaction to them that made me wonder.

Notice how JPaps and Noods especially have reacted- which makes me supsect them most of all... especially once I'm gone- if you look back at JPaps's mindless quoting- basically quoting everything I ever said and puts a tiny blurb at the bottom totally out of context.

LOL, mindless quoting...tiny blurbs...sounds like case building to me.

I'd say odds of being Mafia:


JPaps - 99% sure he is mafia
- been pulling a lot of quotes from me that actually don't say much about anything... latest attempt is to say I've changed my mind... and about some players I have- that's the game as you learn new things. The early needless defense of Zaffy and Luvbugs too coincidental. Notice how much effort he's been trying to get me removed.

You still have not told me why rocker was thrown around your lists. Point me to where his posts might have caused you to change you mind so many times.

Noodles - 95% sure she is mafia. The whole "you seemed coached thing" when I identified Zaffy, JPaps and LuvBugz trio as being linked. She seemed to be against Kashta early on. Seemed to try and put suspicion on people against the trio- yet linguistic style seemed to be faux-non-commital.

BTW- notice how Noodles spends so much time looking for chinks in my armour accuses me of being coached- and then when I ask for examples of what exactly I've said a newbie couldn't have thought up- I'm told to do my own research! LOL- looks like you already did it Noods and can't come up with anything to back up your OWN claim.


Zaffy- 85% sure he is mafia. I'm actually less sure on Zaffy than the other two- he stays high on my list due to his and JPaps seeming bond. He's been on here less. Despite him being my number one target- his lack of defensiveness and going on the offensive makes me less sure of him.

Ice- 50% chance mafia. Yes, this is the one person on my list that does seem to qualify as an OMGUS vote. It's because of him starting the ball rolling against me on start of day 3 that made me suspicious. Why me as the first vote when I wasn't a contender on day 1 or 2? Was I on the right track? I jokingly said on day 2- if I'm right since I'm naming names I'll be a prime candidate on day 3. Day 3 when I woke up- I already had 5 votes with no one else having 1. Two of those votes- Paps, and Noods as people I had been saying were suspicious.

The fact I had so many votes early on when days 1 and 2 no-one had considered me looks odd to me.

On day 2 most people thought Paps was guilty... only because attention seems to be drawn to me people now think he is innocent. Noods on day 2 I think I was the only one pointing out her seeming dual nature of posts...

Most people thought I was guilty? I think you're confusing me with Luv...:screwy:

A lot of people threw out my name as a possibility, but nothing more than that.

It could just be a coincidence that Ice started the ball rolling- on his plus side he never did anything to arise suspicion before hand.

What put him back under suspicion for me was actually changing his vote away from me to someone else who was not a challenger for my lynching. Why? Unless to seperate himself from the obvious mafia members (if I'm guilty) JPaps and Noodles.

I really don't know about ICE- I see it 50/50.



I don't think Ogre is guilty- in part because of the over the top way that he's been linked to me... dunno though- he might turn out to be. He also seemed day one and two to be going after those who I thought were most likely mafia.

My earliest quote on thinking Ogre was innocent (I certainly wasn't 100% sure) was from when I decided of the two (Rocker and Zaffy) that Zaffy was the most likely mafia member.

Ogre was originally instigated as mafia along with Rocker for voting against Zaffy. Seemed to be too many harsh conclusions for someone casting a second vote. Since then, a lot of it has been in jest- but yes I do believe Ogre to be innocent- because he does tend- at least in the beginning tended to be opposed to others who were highly suspicious.

There really isn't enough evidence either way with Ogre- gut says innocent. I think he is annoyed I said he was innocent though.

Ogre pretty much showed how false this whole part was...I'll let him deal with your response...


I've no idea whatsoever about DangerDoll I haven't paid her much thought. Looks like she thinks I'm guilty- can't say the same about her - I've as much opinion on her as I did before day one began. I really don't know.

Firedancer- I really don't know with any certainty- I put in the possibily innocent category based on recent comments and opinions... not really enough evidence either way to be conclusive.

I saw Fire's recent comments being against voting for you so I could see why...but what about before when you put her as a likely innocent, what compelled you to say that?

JM, another one who voted against me- but I think he's most likely innocent. Again, not enough evidence to say conclusively one way or another.










Basically- before today- and yes, I've deliberately made a big-to-do on day three because, obviously I'm going down- and I know why I'm going down... I've been right on everything so far- Kash innocent- Luvbugs guilty- and based on reactions to me my suspicions on Noods and Jpaps will almost certainly be found guilty.


Knowing I'm going down (when you wake up and are already 5 votes behind you don't stand a chance) - I just want to make sure that if I'm going down I take some mafia down with me.


Anyhow- before today though, where I might have looked guilty to some- the only evidence against me was.

1) I had the same shortlist as Rocker. Luvbugs, JPap, and Zaffy.
2) I said I thought Ogre was innocent... I still think it funny that stating you think someone might be innocent makes you a suspect.
3) I was apparantly coached- but no-one can point to one thing I said that appeared coached. Apparantly I must have been coached for pointing out the obvious Luvbugz, Jpap, Zaffy triangle.

You must have skimmed my case...there was so much more than that. No sense bringing it up here as people can read it for themselves.


Anyhow - remember for day 4- don't let my death be in vain... you may be confused now- you may call it smoke- but remember who started saying I was coached when I started pointing at the above triangle and asked questions on her. Noodles. Remember her track record.

Remember JPap- the glue between Zaffy and Luvbugz- one already determined mafia.

LOL, I like that I'm the glue...one determined mafia that you knew all about beforehand.

Zaffy- seemed to be too much defence of Zaffy going on early on. (yet a simple comment I think Ogre is innocent when he wasn't a major candidate makes me suspect?)

Once you see I'm innocent if you get those three next innocents should be ahead.


Anyhow- this post took me way too long- I probably won't be back again until Sunday (beach here I come).


I've had a lot of fun... ironically day three has been a blast for me- I've enjoyed being attacked too much... I'm sadistic... LOL Great playing with you. No offense to anyone- nothing intended personally. Love y'all really! Bye ;)

My responses in bold

Since wycco is a foregone conclusion at this point. I think it does make sense to explore other suspects.

Jpapp - I want to go back and look at him more closely. Wycco implied that he's part of my axis of evil, and I want to see if there's any actual reason for that or if it's just crazy ramblings from a dead man.

Noodles - Spaghetti in her avatar now. Is she flaunting it in front of us? But seriously, I think she's suspicious.

Ogre - I think is probably innocent, but not enough to take off my radar. In the day 1 vote, Ogre voted for luvbugz as a 2nd vote. In the end luvbugz and kash were tied. Ogre had the opportunity (and was posting during the timeline as well) to change his vote and avoid a tie situation which put luvbugz in danger on day 1.

Annie - I also think is probably innocent, for the same reason as above. however there is a great deal that bothers me about him/her.

Rocker - We'll see how the wycco thing plays out. The only reason I suspect him is because he doesn't back up his claims and seems to avoid the question.

Dangerdoll - I don't like the word twisting, and drive bys. But apparently this is standard procedure for her.

Wycco is still acting on the suspicion that I came to your rescue by voting rocker day 1. That is the only "connection" between us two I can find...
 
Ogre - I think is probably innocent, but not enough to take off my radar. In the day 1 vote, Ogre voted for luvbugz as a 2nd vote. In the end luvbugz and kash were tied. Ogre had the opportunity (and was posting during the timeline as well) to change his vote and avoid a tie situation which put luvbugz in danger on day 1.

Dude, luvbugz WAS mafia...

Zaffy... move to the head of the class for mafia.
 
Since wycco is a foregone conclusion at this point. I think it does make sense to explore other suspects.

Jpapp - I want to go back and look at him more closely. Wycco implied that he's part of my axis of evil, and I want to see if there's any actual reason for that or if it's just crazy ramblings from a dead man.

Noodles - Spaghetti in her avatar now. Is she flaunting it in front of us? But seriously, I think she's suspicious.

Ogre - I think is probably innocent, but not enough to take off my radar. In the day 1 vote, Ogre voted for luvbugz as a 2nd vote. In the end luvbugz and kash were tied. Ogre had the opportunity (and was posting during the timeline as well) to change his vote and avoid a tie situation which put luvbugz in danger on day 1.

Annie - I also think is probably innocent, for the same reason as above. however there is a great deal that bothers me about him/her.

Rocker - We'll see how the wycco thing plays out. The only reason I suspect him is because he doesn't back up his claims and seems to avoid the question.

Dangerdoll - I don't like the word twisting, and drive bys. But apparently this is standard procedure for her.
also keep in mind that Luvbugz snatched my vote the first day. she took it and used it to lynch Kash...had i voted like i was supposed to, i would have voted for luvbugz and Kash would most likely still be here. that said, i think that it was luvbugz's reactions to the stolen vote that exposed her, so without it, she may have not even been up on the chopping block at all, and chances are jpap would have been lynched instead of her yesterday.
 
I am reading things over again (with the usual distractions!:swear:) trying to determine which way I should turn after nightfall. If Wycco is mafia (which I think he is, obviously) then I will most likely look at Rocker, and probably Ogre since Wycco keeps proclaiming that Ogre is innocent; altho this may be his plan to have the town go after one of their own.....hhhhmmmmm.....
If Wycco comes up innocent I plan on looking into Zaffy, Jpap and Firedancer......

I really dont like "what ifs" (and like suspense even less!) I will gather my thoughts better after we know the results of nightfall....

For the record, I am going out this evening and hope to be home for nightfall but not sure I will make it....

Looks like we will have a bunch more UD's. Let's hope they include more mafia.....
 
also keep in mind that Luvbugz snatched my vote the first day. she took it and used it to lynch Kash...had i voted like i was supposed to, i would have voted for luvbugz and Kash would most likely still be here. that said, i think that it was luvbugz's reactions to the stolen vote that exposed her, so without it, she may have not even been up on the chopping block at all, and chances are jpap would have been lynched instead of her yesterday.
How did you come to that conclusion? Had Luv not been on the chopping block all those votes could have been thrown in an entirely different fashion.
 
Sorry guys something came up. My comp broke, I'm using my friends. IDK if I'm out already, bt if not I regret to inform everybody, i dont think I can partake in the game anymore.
 
Sorry guys something came up. My comp broke, I'm using my friends. IDK if I'm out already, bt if not I regret to inform everybody, i dont think I can partake in the game anymore.

Snag!
I retract my vote for Wycco and vote to lynch TRS

This should give me Lucky's vote.....:dance:
 
How did you come to that conclusion? Had Luv not been on the chopping block all those votes could have been thrown in an entirely different fashion.
yes, this is true...now that i think about it, people were voting for you because of your reactions to her, saying that you were "protecting her."

this game would be very different had luvbugz not taken my vote.
 
now.....I retract my vote for TRS and vote to lynch Wycco (x2)
 
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