Mafia 54:Vampires Return (The Play)
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It's completely possible that I've completely misread the game and Ogre wasn't picked until last night.
Ogre as LV is just my current theory- my theory has been changing daily though. Even if Ogre is the LV- they know he is doomed regardless and if my theory is correct, they still get to switch out the LV vote one more time- so they wouldn't throw away their own lives just to protect Ogre.
I am curious as to Rocker's absence- also Ogre hasn't voted yet has he? I'm curious where he casts his nominal vote. Surely he doesn't have a choice and has to vote for me... unless he is hoping there is a secondary candidate for vampire he can latch onto- if JM built up momentum then he would presumedly vote for him to try and save himself.
That's right.. update:
Ogre - Wycco Zaffy Annie Lani Rich Paper Coler Kashta
Zaffy - JM
No votes: Rocker and Ogre
JM's vote on Zaffy looks very incriminating. He posted one minute after I outed Ogre- so, fine- he could have been typing before I hit send... BUT... the moment his post stuck, the screen should have shown him that Ogre was outed.
Surely at that point there was only two scenarios. a) I was telling the truth and Ogre is a vampire. b) I had been turned and I was a vampire.
To not change his vote makes no sense at all. Combine that with JM's late vote switch last night... I think it all looks very bad for JM's prospects of survival tomorrow.
I tend to think Ogre was a vamp form the start. Only thing that makes sense. Unless of course Wy is fooling us in which case we are in serious doodoo.
JM sure looks scummy and getting scummier. I almost think we should take him out today.
JM sure looks scummy and getting scummier. I almost think we should take him out today.
As much as I think JM is guilty- it would be rediculous to go after JM right now with Ogre a guaranteed vampire. Splitting the votes and giving Ogre a life-line is exactly what the vampires would want.
Now the big question I have is... is it worth spending a day's investigation on JM? He seems almost certainly vampire- so would it be a waste investigating him- should I be looking for the third vampire instead?
When I investigated you Rich- I was sure you would come back guilty- and I think you were looking very likely to be the next to go.
I'm not sure if I should be confirming JM as guilty so we don't waste a lynching tomorrow- or investigating one of the people I suspect was turned last night since we're almost all unanimous on JM's guilt- so that we can track the third vampire.
IF Ogre is lead vampire- there is almost no chance he'll pass the title to JM on his death because JM is almost certainly toast tomorrow. Perhaps me looking for whoever was turned last night would make more sense. (assuming Ogre is lead).
Now the big question I have is... is it worth spending a day's investigation on JM? He seems almost certainly vampire- so would it be a waste investigating him- should I be looking for the third vampire instead?
When I investigated you Rich- I was sure you would come back guilty- and I think you were looking very likely to be the next to go.
I'm not sure if I should be confirming JM as guilty so we don't waste a lynching tomorrow- or investigating one of the people I suspect was turned last night since we're almost all unanimous on JM's guilt- so that we can track the third vampire.
IF Ogre is lead vampire- there is almost no chance he'll pass the title to JM on his death because JM is almost certainly toast tomorrow. Perhaps me looking for whoever was turned last night would make more sense. (assuming Ogre is lead).
Putting myself in the shoes of the seer I guess I would also be considering the possibility that a previous invest was turned last night along with everything else.
One reason however why I think Ogre was turned last night is his post claiming priestly powers - this is exactly the kind of deciciveness the vampire team needed when wycco came out in order to so confusion and even perhaps lynch the seer and they sorely lacked it.
If Ogre had been on the vampire team at that time they would have played a much better hand.
I dunno maybe I would investigate JM, although I believe him guilty...we have no guarantees that kashta remains innocent, we have equally no guarantees of course on rocker or heck anyone else.
One reason however why I think Ogre was turned last night is his post claiming priestly powers - this is exactly the kind of deciciveness the vampire team needed when wycco came out in order to so confusion and even perhaps lynch the seer and they sorely lacked it.
If Ogre had been on the vampire team at that time they would have played a much better hand.
I dunno maybe I would investigate JM, although I believe him guilty...we have no guarantees that kashta remains innocent, we have equally no guarantees of course on rocker or heck anyone else.
Wycco, the turn could be anybody. I wasn't going to trust you anymore either after nightfall if their turn was successful (in case the priest did something illogical). But Ogre is obviously lying, so your investigation is true. Beyond that now, it's just a guess who Ogre and JM would go after.
