Mafia #57: The Great Mafia War- The Game

No, Ice either you miss understood me or I am misunderstanding you. My point was I would not move a vote to save myself (which he did NOT do). You were saying, if I got it right and I think I did...since he didn't save himself it pretty much clears him....in my thought it does NOT clear him, because if I was in his position (could save myself by moving my vote) I would NOT of switched to someone on the chopping block...which he did not. Yes, he moved his vote SEVERAL times, but not to anyone who actually had a chance to be lynched. Just because he didn't save himself and had the chance to does NOT in anyway "clear" him in my mind.

I got you...

But he did move to several people that would have tied up the vote and lowered his chances at losing the coin flip.

Eh if I'm wrong I'll hang for it...
 
I got you...

But he did move to several people that would have tied up the vote and lowered his chances at losing the coin flip.

Eh if I'm wrong I'll hang for it...
Yes, landing on someone who wouldn't go....thus not having his hands dirty on the lynch of an innocent, or the "tie" of an innocent. I'm sorry Ice, we just see "why" he would do it differently. You I spose think he would only do that if innocent. I on the other hand feel very strongly that a mafia would do exactly what he did with the thought (well, I didn't "save" myself so I will look less scummy).
 
Well, I have to take my daughter to her dance class. I won't be back before nightfall and am comfortable with my vote on Annie.
 
Right here. Of course Ice quoted someone else about Annie, but right after that fact you vote for Annie and then leave for the night. Looks like you were just trying to find a quick way to place a vote and vanish. The DD I know doesn't need other people's theories or logic to place votes. Did your team tell you to vote for Annie and you were just waiting for a convient time to place it without looking too suspicious??

It annoys me when people do this... I very seriously doubt DD needs her team to tell her how to play.
 
Eh because RB will vote Annie to save himself and I said I'd vote RB if need be and Luv isn't getting votes and I've gone to far with protecting Annie without really any reasons but my own.

I retract my vote on Luv and vote to lynch RB
 
LG- Annie 132
Ogre- Rocker 136, Luv 156, JL 178
Annie- JL 141, LG 143, DD 154, Jmax 168, Zs 217
Rb- Zaffy 155, Wood 161, Jmax 168, Ogre 177, Wycco 223, Ice 236
Ice- MC 157, Lan 207
Rocker- Annie 166
Luv- Ice 173, Annie 210

No votes: Rb, Rich

Just over an hour left before night
 
Yes, landing on someone who wouldn't go....thus not having his hands dirty on the lynch of an innocent, or the "tie" of an innocent. I'm sorry Ice, we just see "why" he would do it differently. You I spose think he would only do that if innocent. I on the other hand feel very strongly that a mafia would do exactly what he did with the thought (well, I didn't "save" myself so I will look less scummy).

Annie, Dawg, Jmax, Kash, Lady G all went up to bala night one. Annies final voted was on Lanimret, someone who had not yet posted.

There were plenty of people who Annie could have voted for to:
A) Decide the vote and save himself. 0% chance to die.
B) Increase to 2 votes and reduce his chances of being the loser. 16% to die. (1 in 6)
C) Place the vote on a non-issue. 20% chance to die. (1 in 5)

A is a tempting selection, but it incurs a great deal of risk on the next days.

I don't see choice C as a suspicious move. It's a good choice for long term survival. B is better though in that respect. Additionally, there's only a 13.4% chance (2 in 15, for those wondering why it's not a simple 1 in 5, it's because Annie would still be an option to hang) that the person Annie would have voted for would also been the person hanged. With such poor odds I see that as a non-issue, especially on Day 1 when so much is arbitrary anyway.

Ice is saying that clears* Annie of suspicion in terms of the bizarro voting behavior. I don't want to put words in Ice's mouth so be mindfull of the asterisk. I think Ice is wrong because the only vote that really matters in terms of survival and death is the final vote. Everything before that is smoke and mirrors.

Night One

Votes:

Dawg- Zaffy 42, Rb 44, Annie 119
Jmax- Zs 49, Annie 116, Annie 119
Zaffy- Rich 51
Rb- Ogre 52, Wycco 106, Ogre 107, Annie 119
Zs- Annie 55
Kash- Rocker 56, LG 71
Annie- Dawg 59, Ogre 82, DD 84
Wycco- Luv 62
Lady G- Kashta 64, Wood 80
Luv- Ice 67
DD- JL 69, Annie 99
MC- Annie 102
JL- Annie 116
Lan- Annie 120

No votes: Lan, MC, Jmax
 
Oh goodness... I'm an enormous nerd. :(
 
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