Mafia 62- The Play

[dirtydawg10]

This was me totally being OMGUSy.



I did not miss it Ice, but it wasn't something that really stuck out to me until I was thinking about it more. I just wanted to bring it back up in case one of my fellow townies missed it. Also, it was not me who brought odds into the last game, that was JB. He was trying to use it against both Zaffy and me.



Yes, I am feeling better about your posting. You're one of the ones I'm leaning towards trusting. I hope it's not misplaced. Your second point is quite true as well.



When I said I'd bet my fish that 2/3 of Noods, Dawg, and JL were mafia, I was mainly focused on Noods and Dawg. Noods odd behavior, not committing at all to anything, downplaying her change in posting habits, repeated claims of busyness (which could very well be true, I've got a ton to do as well but this is GREAT procrastination and I love to procrastinate) all tell me something is off. My reasons for suspecting Dawg were his early interactions/distancing from Noods, her distancing response, and then how he jumped in with JL and Noods to build a case against me. It was an excellent opportunity for him to do so if he's mafia as he knows I am innocent. So if I'm wrong, what fish do you want me to send you? Choices are CA, SA, Vics, Malawi, or Tang cichlids, or various community fish. But I'm pretty darn confident I won't have to send you any...

Put up some pics of your fish soon so I can pick which one I want when you're wrong. I know the odds are with me winning this bet


So I said I would reread and put up a list. I haven't totally reread yet but here goes in no particular order.

LR - For the same reasons as last night.

Razz - Still hasn't answered my question about the apparent slip up in saying sorry to Kash. Why didn't you say sorry to Alex? He was innocent too. Is it because you didn't have anything to do with them leaving the game?

For now that's my short list and if I had to pick one right now I'd go with Razz.

Ice has me a bit worried as he always does. I actually dropped him a bit on my list for now because of Kash being hit. After discussions from last game it seems like someone is trying to set him up for the lynch. I don't think that Ice would hit Kash. (Unless he thinks that we think that he wouldn't hit Kash because we think that he'd want Kash out for what she said about him last game...lol...this is my tribute to LG portion of my post :silly

 

[RazzleFish]

^^I said sorry to Kash since she was a good innocent player. I know she is good at mafia games and usually helps the town out a lot so it is truely a loss. I left out Alex because I was assuming he left on purpose and would probably would not be looking back on the thread but ok I'll say it:

I am sorry to loose you Alex!

 

[dirtydawg10]

I can see what you're saying Razz. I guess it's the wording that I'm hung up on. You didn't say "sorry to lose you" or "sorry to see you go" you just said sorry. I can see why you would just say "sorry" to Ag because you voted for them...but the Kash thing just has me wondering. You have nothing to be sorry to her about unless you had something to do with the hit. I'm done with this for now because I don't want to get too hung up on semantics of your wording.

 

[ZSandmann]

Jpap
Lab-innocent townie
DD
Michwol42795
Ag-Detective
Kash-innocent townie
Rich
Ice
AlexW-innocent townie
Zaffy
JL
Noodles
Dawg
ZSandman
JB
Razz

Of the above, the ones who I trust the most are as follows:
Zaffy-I totally agree with jpap baiting Ag. You haven't said anything that has struck me as scummy
Jbradt-You seem to be really helping the town, trying to find mafia scum
Zsand-I get no scummy vibe from you (I am sure someone is going to point out that Z is one of the few that hasn't listed me on their suspect list so I'll go ahead and point that out myself).

Eh... thanks I guess but for some reason this does more to alarm me than console me. If I were to be Hit next nightfall would you then say, awww man see I thought he was Innocent, sucks to lose him. When I'm trusted, I always feel like I'm the next to go.

Odd wording here...so are you saying that you agree with Jb just because you trust him? Would you not have to agree with the logic he used first? :screwy:

I'm getting some feelings of deja vu here...its weird that you're cuddling up to Jb after one night because you "trust" him. As far as I can tell he's been helpful as of late but that means nothing to me.

You also have listed...

Zaffy- because he agrees with you and no scummy feelings
Zsand- because no scummy feelings

The fist thought that pops into my head is that you are trying to align yourself with other innocents. What about Razz, Rich, Michwol, or DD? I haven't seen you mention those people as potential scum but you don't seem to trust them.

Yeah Pappy nailed it for me here. Lab seems to be finding someone to latch on to.

 

[ZSandmann]

Not going to have much time today or tomorrow, but I will say I've reread and have no new leads. I'm really frustrated Agass didn't RC... but we've got to play with what we have, can't be any worse than last game

 

[Lab_Rat]

I find it odd that now that Lab is on a lot of lists and then she suddenly agrees with JB (not on anyones list). I kind of think that could be mafia trying to hide with an innocent (maybe innocent). I agree that DD is very quiet but again, I don't know whats up.

My list in order:
Lab
Jpap
DD/Ice

I am not suddenly agreeing with JB, I kicked around in the bushes at him when he was not posting much. Many things he has posted since then seem pro town and not scummy. I know he said it concerned him that I agreed with him (would have to be just plain dumb to not see the truth in what he said) though it shouldn't concern him as I'll show innocent when lynched.

Stupid phone won't let me do multiquote and format it properly so I'll have to answer everything in a separate post.

 

[IceH2O]

I have to agree with this. If AG revealed himself the Doc could have protected from the hit. The Town lost a big PR last night. Hopefully we can recover from it.

I need to do some rereading before I put a list of suspects out there and I'm not around much today so I'll try to post something thia afternoon or evening if I can.

Ag was lynched not hit. Nothing the Dr could have done about it and I doubt any of us would have believed him.

I want to look back because I know someone else said something similar. I think you guys might be trying to put something into the Drs head to have them come out. The Dr can't protect themselves so that would be a huge mistake.

 

[IceH2O]

That... sucked hard. And what's with all the chit chat during Night guys?

I can't believe you wouldn't fight against your lynch Agas... heck Roleclaim or something, I don't know if it would of helped but it couldn't have hurt. Needless to say I'm going to go back and reread.

I'm not looking one way and voting another. I'm looking both ways, if I had two votes I'd give one to both jpap and Noods. And I'm not attempting to blame jpap for lynching the detective, I am blaming jpap for the results of this nights lynch. (Also blame Ag some as he should have defended himself or even revealed he was detective).

Here are 2 more that say Ag should have claimed Detective. Really would anyone have believed him?

Dawg?
Z?
Lab?

Would you have believed him? And Z since you're the only one of the 3 to be on Ag where would your vote have moved to if you answer yes.

Actually I just looked back...while I think you baited him, you weren't the first to vote for him (in fact you were fourth) and he did react weird to all your probing. Ice was the first to actually vote for Ag.

And this means what to you?




I don't see Jpap as being mafia at this time. On Day 1 mafia doesn't need to try so hard to attack (as everyones putting it) one person. They put out suspicion on many and then let the town go on the witch hunt.

 

[Lab_Rat]

**bottom of the post starting with "you have also listed" is the rest of what I tried to quote, I can't delete it because I can't scroll**

As I explained above, I trust jb because he seems pro town and helpful. Most of his posts have made a lot of sense to me. You say yourself, jpap, that he seems helpful.

As far as the other innocents go, I threw Rich's name out there because he hadn't posted much but fluff. I know he likes to sit back a bit and since I threw his name out there he hasn't done anything to make me think scummy. It's why I'm not super concerned about him atm. Razz scares me a bit with his randomness and I cannot for the life of me figure out his logic. The more I am hearing from others the more I think he could be scummy, with the mafia coaching him to not do anything stupid. Same with Michwol, at first I thought what he did was simply a dumb noob move, but his comment about why would you care if you're not mafia(can't remember it exactly but that was the gist) was way off. I'm innocent and you bet your arse I won't go down without a fight. I wish I had a role to role claim. Also, with the way he switched votes during nightfall, from one that didn't matter to another that didn't have any impact on the lynch makes me think his mafia buddies coached him to do so, only he was late to the party and totally messed up the timing. I don't know about DD, in the Christmas game she was much more talkative but she was non comm mafia. Is she quiet cuz she's busy or is it because she communicates behind the scenes in her mafia den? Ice I have no idea what to think. Part of me thinks the mafia is setting him up to get lynched while another part of me thinks it could be ice himself setting it up to look like he was set up.

So those are my thoughts on those other players.

Those are my thoughts on those players

You also have listed...

Zaffy- because he agrees with you and no scummy feelings
Zsand- because no scummy feelings

The fist thought that pops into my head is that you are trying to align yourself with other innocents. What about Razz, Rich, Michwol, or DD? I haven't seen you mention those people as potential scum but you don't seem to trust them.[/QUOTE]

 

[IceH2O]

I vote to lynch Lab


I don't really like all the finger pointing then the explanation post of why it looks like finger pointing.