Mafia 62- The Play

[Zaffy]

Agree that the tinfoil conspiracy, while creative and original, is being used as a shield. Even after it was pointed out how randomly roles were chosen and that Annie was anti-tweeking the roles, he still voted on his conspiracy. One night, ok. But why didn't he vote for Noods since she was the one bringing up SK? Instead he votes Z? Makes no sense at all. He even repeats that this past nightfall. I think he didn't want to vote for his mafia buddy Razz, yet he also didn't want to be the kill vote on someone he knew would show innocent. The tie worked in the mafia's favor and Zaffy didn't have to take any risk of exposure and accusations.

I'm not sure the benefits of a landslide vote vs. a 2 or 3 horse race. I highly doubt Razz will be able to change my mind about his guilt, but the more I think about things, especially the voting pattern with Zaffy (which is ironic because he was the one to bring it up) the scummier Zaffy looks.

JL's attempts to save Razz pretty much solidified Razz as mafia. Why else would JL pull that stunt, he didn't know he was going to be nailed by the vig. I'm sure he knew that would skyrocket his mafia status on many lists, it sure did on mine.

What do you make of Michwol's last minute, ninja vote? A vote that ended up helping lynch an innocent. I was glad he stayed around a little afterwards but I didn't glean much from him, even though he did manage to double his posts for the entire game in that short post nightfall period.

Did you notice since last night that I've totally abandoned that supposed "shield". I'm drinking the water now.

She was already lynched, there was no need for me to change my vote.

Actually I didn't want to break the tie. I had no significant thoughts of either Dawg nor razz at the time.

Tie me with Michwol tomorrow night. Compare our voting records head to head.

 

[Zaffy]

I'd still like to see Razz or Zaffy's role before taking out the newb.

This is how the town loses games. There is no rational reason that michwol's newbie card should protect him at this point.

 

[jbradt]

This is how the town loses games. There is no rational reason that michwol's newbie card should protect him at this point.

I can't help but notice that you call me out on this, Zaffy when I'm not the only one more interested in you and Razz than in Mich.

 

[Zaffy]

I can't help but notice that you call me out on this, Zaffy when I'm not the only one more interested in you and Razz than in Mich.

I don't care if you're interested in me, vote for me tomorrow. I want you to take a moment and look at Mich though, don't let him slide because you want to be nice to the new kid.

 

[jbradt]

It's not that I'm looking for sympathy, I was just playing with the idea since I have sucked this game. But please re-read my posts since the last nightfall. see how they stand.

I think voting record is a great reason to look at him. He's got a distinct mafia pattern to his voting.

Have you never thought of a better reply after clicking "submit"

I will do just that, Zaff. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Help me out. Point out to me what you think is the evidence of your innocence.

 

[jbradt]

I don't care if you're interested in me, vote for me tomorrow. I want you to take a moment and look at Mich though, don't let him slide because you want to be nice to the new kid.

I've been looking at Mich all game. And he's been on my list for a while, as well as others. And admittedly you make some good points. I'll be back with a post later today of your posts since the last night fall. But again, help me out.

 

[Zaffy]

I will do just that, Zaff. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard. Help me out. Point out to me what you think is the evidence of your innocence.

I have not made an argument for my innocence. So I don't think there are posts by me which reflect that. However, the content of my posts since last night I feel are actions which lend me some credibility.

I wish I had time to go through and make a better post, but I have to leave for work in a couple mins.

 

[jpappy789]

I have not made an argument for my innocence. So I don't think there are posts by me which reflect that. However, the content of my posts since last night I feel are actions which lend me some credibility.

I wish I had time to go through and make a better post, but I have to leave for work in a couple mins.

I would believe you if it was throughout the entire game, not just since two mafia have been killed.

 

[ZSandmann]

I too found Mich's sudden appearance after last Night interesting. They've been a non-player all game, just popping in last minute to not UD, claiming they don't get the game and generally going with the flow. That strategy worked really well for Lab last game and I keep coming back to that point. I am not afraid to vote newbies and I believe most everyone knows that. The question is, is Mich a more likely Mafium than Zaff or Razz?

On the topic of Role-claiming, IMO, it is ok for the Vg to RC at this point in the game. We certainly have numbers over the Mafia now and another confirmed Innocent makes it near impossible for a 2-3 player Mafia team to win. There is no endgame for them if there are two confirmed Innocents and a Doctor still in the shadows. But that's up to the Vig, however, if it is Zaff, Mich, or Razz you should start singing now.

Lastly, I prefer multi-player lynches. Look how well that worked out last Night, yeah we lost an Innocent to the lynch, but it brought out JL for the Vig to take their shot.

Busy day today but I'll check in periodically.

 

[jpappy789]

I too found Mich's sudden appearance after last Night interesting. They've been a non-player all game, just popping in last minute to not UD, claiming they don't get the game and generally going with the flow. That strategy worked really well for Lab last game and I keep coming back to that point. I am not afraid to vote newbies and I believe most everyone knows that. The question is, is Mich a more likely Mafium than Zaff or Razz?

On the topic of Role-claiming, IMO, it is ok for the Vg to RC at this point in the game. We certainly have numbers over the Mafia now and another confirmed Innocent makes it near impossible for a 2-3 player Mafia team to win. There is no endgame for them if there are two confirmed Innocents and a Doctor still in the shadows. But that's up to the Vig, however, if it is Zaff, Mich, or Razz you should start singing now.

Lastly, I prefer multi-player lynches. Look how well that worked out last Night, yeah we lost an Innocent to the lynch, but it brought out JL for the Vig to take their shot.

Busy day today but I'll check in periodically.

I couldn't agree more...where are ya vig?