Mafia 62- The Play

This is how the town loses games. There is no rational reason that michwol's newbie card should protect him at this point.
His noob card is not going to keep me from lynching him. He seems scummy to me, but you do too Zaffy. I'm not going to make my decision hastily.

I don't care if you're interested in me, vote for me tomorrow. I want you to take a moment and look at Mich though, don't let him slide because you want to be nice to the new kid.
I've been looking at him for a while now. His sudden spurt of posts, with not much insight, makes me suspicious. I already thought he was being coached in the scum den. I still haven't given up the idea that all 3 of you whom I suspect could be mafia.

I too found Mich's sudden appearance after last Night interesting. They've been a non-player all game, just popping in last minute to not UD, claiming they don't get the game and generally going with the flow. That strategy worked really well for Lab last game and I keep coming back to that point. I am not afraid to vote newbies and I believe most everyone knows that. The question is, is Mich a more likely Mafium than Zaff or Razz?


Lastly, I prefer multi-player lynches. Look how well that worked out last Night, yeah we lost an Innocent to the lynch, but it brought out JL for the Vig to take their shot.

I agree Z, then he left when the questions started getting more specific. Naming Razz and Zaffy, without real reason, then saying everyone else is equal is quite suspicious. I also find his timing, voting immediately before nightfall, and voting for someone who turned up innocent, to be suspicious. Most of the posts he made were fluff and banter, though he did manage to double his post count in that short time without saying anything real.

So if the lynch is Zaffy vs. Razz, what will that tell us? I know last nightfall made JL have a psychotic break and he saved Razz's butt, but if we have the last two mafia against each other they're just gonna throw each other under the bus. It would be interesting to see where Michwol's vote falls, especially if it falls on an innocent.

As far as the vig goes, I'm not it. I wish I was though, would love to be able to claim the take out of the don. :headbang2:
 
Did you notice since last night that I've totally abandoned that supposed "shield". I'm drinking the water now.

She was already lynched, there was no need for me to change my vote.


Actually I didn't want to break the tie. I had no significant thoughts of either Dawg nor razz at the time.

Tie me with Michwol tomorrow night. Compare our voting records head to head.


The shield was weak to begin with especially when you couldn't pull 2 more names to fit the theory.

I'll leave the 2nd comment alone. To many acceptable answers for that one.

How could you not have an opinion one way or the other on Razz or Dawg? Weren't the cases against either good enough for you?


Zaffy was on my 1st list. Nothing has changed IMO.
 
Always keep the vote between 2 players, landslides don't tell us anything as players just pile on.

I'd go as far as to say we could vote all 3 of Razz Zaffy and Mich to make it really interesting.

We'd need to make sure to be around at night fall in case all 3 are mafia and try a last minute vote switch to kill an innocent since we'd be spread thin.

If 3 mafia then 6 innocents puts 2 innocents on each mafia.

Might be safer to do Razz and Zaffy in case there are 3 mafia left that way 2 of them has 3 votes no matter what and best they could do is cause a 3 way coin flip.
 
Always keep the vote between 2 players, landslides don't tell us anything as players just pile on.

I'd go as far as to say we could vote all 3 of Razz Zaffy and Mich to make it really interesting.

We'd need to make sure to be around at night fall in case all 3 are mafia and try a last minute vote switch to kill an innocent since we'd be spread thin.

If 3 mafia then 6 innocents puts 2 innocents on each mafia.

Might be safer to do Razz and Zaffy in case there are 3 mafia left that way 2 of them has 3 votes no matter what and best they could do is cause a 3 way coin flip.

I think Razz/Zaffy would be a safer bet for the town. I'm also interested to see where Michwol's vote would fall.

I plan on looking at Zaffy's first suspicions of Noods, when his vote for Z fell, when the votes started coming off of me and on to Noods, etc. I may not be remembering correctly, but I'm pretty sure he had voted for Z while I was still the primary lynch candidate. Therefore his statement about not voting for Noods is :bs:. I won't have time until later tonight though.
 
I had some time to kill so I pulled the posts of Zaffy from the start to end of Day 2 for you Lab.



Not as bad as your day is going to be.

I am guessing you have never played mafia before. You switched your lone worthless vote to another lone worthless vote at (really after) nightfall. Kind of pointless. I think you will have some explaining to do.

Good luck.

I think there is a difference between being mafia and a noobatard. Right now I am leaning towards the latter.

Like I said good luck.

Not sure if this helps clear Mich or not but certainly lowers my suspicions.





Now we get to the good stuff.




:omg::cry:

I vote to lynch jpap

The jpap train starts up.Day 1 Zaffy had Jpap as a suspect.Why not jump on?



I do.

Why is noods a stronger scum person feeling thing for you? Any reason other than gut?

The question is to Lab after she voted Jpap but says Noods seems more scummy.


My top suspects:

Jpap - I feel like he trapped Ag.
DD - I feel like she followed the crowd on Ag, and now on Jpap. That's not like her imo.
Mich - Imply the game isn't worth playing if you're not scum, and he's still playing.

Notice his top 3.

I've seen enough from Pappythat I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. I'm gonna keep him on my short list though.

I don't want to vote Lab because I hate landslides, and everyone I suspect aside from Lab herself, and DD are voting on her; Jpap, noodles, Ice.

I don't like Ice's whole deal with begging for protection, if he's scum and the Dr. buys it, it's a guarantee that their hits will go off without a hitch. He's poking at everyone just a bit, which I like though.

Noodles, I suspect for a reason that I'm keeping to myself for right now, I'll see what happens there.

His suspect list changes from Jpap DD and Mich to Lab DD Jpap Noods and Ice.
Thing that kills me is that Jpap was his vote Day 1. Jpap pretty much got the heat for Agi being lynched. But Zaffy is going to lower him on the suspect list?


Yeah, I was about to vote to lynch you. I'm so torn though, are you scum or sincere?

Now Zaffy is thinking of voting me



Then out of nowhere. Not ever a mention of as a suspect comes this:


I vote to lynch Zsandmann

Pulling your posts is hard, you haven't said anything of substance yet. I just get an overall sense that you're not probing for scum at all. You're throwing other peoples arguments out there and making it look like you're helping the town, but you're really not.



It's easy to hide in a landslide, but you gotta give a reason. You were the 3rd vote, which is a strong vote on day 1 I might add.





It's a reason, but it's a go with the flow status quo reason.



Yes, Ag was leading most of the night, partly due to your vote (#3) on him.


Naw, you're scum. You'll just have to hit me tonight so I don't link you with her. It's a tough life.


It's not hit and run, I think you're scum.


It's the content of posts that's important imo not the quantity. The content if is for the town to decide. I'm certainly guilty of being a low poster at times. g/o my remark is nothing personal I swear it, I'd have a beer with you. :) g/o


Then Rich makes a bad vote but its a nice vote to bait a player on.

Richs vote makes me wonder if you're on to something. If noodles is scum, then it looks like rich is trying to get her off the hook even though he's got such sound reasoning.

Why do you think noodles is not mafia?

Zaffy isn't voting Noods so why is he so concerned about why Rich isn't?


Zaffy I have one more question....

Cremated or pine box?
 
His noob card is not going to keep me from lynching him. He seems scummy to me, but you do too Zaffy. I'm not going to make my decision hastily.


I've been looking at him for a while now. His sudden spurt of posts, with not much insight, makes me suspicious. I already thought he was being coached in the scum den. I still haven't given up the idea that all 3 of you whom I suspect could be mafia.



I agree Z, then he left when the questions started getting more specific. Naming Razz and Zaffy, without real reason, then saying everyone else is equal is quite suspicious. I also find his timing, voting immediately before nightfall, and voting for someone who turned up innocent, to be suspicious. Most of the posts he made were fluff and banter, though he did manage to double his post count in that short time without saying anything real.

So if the lynch is Zaffy vs. Razz, what will that tell us? I know last nightfall made JL have a psychotic break and he saved Razz's butt, but if we have the last two mafia against each other they're just gonna throw each other under the bus. It would be interesting to see where Michwol's vote falls, especially if it falls on an innocent.

As far as the vig goes, I'm not it. I wish I was though, would love to be able to claim the take out of the don. :headbang2:
Having Zaff and Razz in the lynch tells us where the rest of the Mafia are I think. Or at least gets us closer, they have to do everything in their power to save themselves now so if they are both Mafia I don't expect to see much movement but if its 1 and 1 then votes should shift like they did last Night.
Always keep the vote between 2 players, landslides don't tell us anything as players just pile on.

I'd go as far as to say we could vote all 3 of Razz Zaffy and Mich to make it really interesting.

We'd need to make sure to be around at night fall in case all 3 are mafia and try a last minute vote switch to kill an innocent since we'd be spread thin.

If 3 mafia then 6 innocents puts 2 innocents on each mafia.

Might be safer to do Razz and Zaffy in case there are 3 mafia left that way 2 of them has 3 votes no matter what and best they could do is cause a 3 way coin flip.
See Ice can I call it an Ice-ism not :P

I think two is enough, if we ran three we spread too thin and give the Mafia too much flex. Zaffy and Razz are my top two. Mich is the unknown.

Another person to mention is DD, she has been an absolute ghost this game, I'd expect her to be more outspoken if she were a PR, but the fact no one is even mentioning her is bothersome. I'd pull posts at this point but I don't think there are many. In fact we could say she's doing just what Mich is doing.
 
DAY FOUR

Razz-4- Ice(#684), Jpap(#685), Zaffy(#739), Lab(#756)
Zaffy-2- ZS(#691), DD(#728)

No vote from Mich or Razz

AFTER WEDNESDAY, WE WILL SWITCH TO 24 HOUR DAYS.

NIGHTFALL IN 25 HOURS

PM'S AS REQUIRED
 
So, when Razz and Mich put their votes in, you get your tie.
 
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