CONFESSION! I FLUSH FISH!
- Thread starter Rbishop
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I don't have enough experience with severely injured fish. I attempt to save and when they are dead they get their porcelain burial.
I must say though RBishop I am having a hard time reconciling your statement with the guy who has a kind and encouraging thing to say to every new person that joins or those who post a pic of their set up. Was that really you or did someone get a hold of your internet pass? A little Jekyll and Hyde moment.
I must say though RBishop I am having a hard time reconciling your statement with the guy who has a kind and encouraging thing to say to every new person that joins or those who post a pic of their set up. Was that really you or did someone get a hold of your internet pass? A little Jekyll and Hyde moment.
How long can a flushed fish live?
Angyles said:I always opt for clove oil, but here's something I'm wondering. Let's say you do flush a fish down the toilet, how long do you think it lives? It's got a major temp change, chlorine, chloramine, probably ammonia, nitrites and astronomical levels of nitrates....wouldn't the fish pretty much die of shock relatively instantly anyway?
How long can a fish live in a sewer?
http://americanfishkeeping.com/content.php?c_id=45
Flushed goldfish saved from sewer
Flushing goldfish is a crappy thing to do
A goldfish has been rescued by a sewage plant worker, after being flushed down the toilet.
Now nicknamed Pooh, the floundering fish was found in a screen at a sewage plant in Philipshill, East Kilbride.
"Obviously someone thought their pet was on its last legs." Said Jake Huey, the worker who found the fish while cleaning.
"It made its way through the waste water network underneath the streets and popped up in our screens totally revived."
Survivor
When found the fish was rushed to an emergency tank, and has been dubbed "one lucky little fish."
Other items found in sewers include deck chairs, mattresses, false teeth and even an outboard motor.
Scottish Water are now looking for a new home for Pooh, but have urged their customers to dispose of their waste responsibly.
Article originally in Practical Fishkeeping.
Now, how long in a septic tank? I shudder to think... minutes? hours? a day?
how dare u flush fish they are living things too. I only flush dead fish and if my fish get a disease because i was stupid of i screwed up then i suffer and lose money. I try not to make my fish suffer but sometimes i get there too late.
I don't doubt that some fish have made it through to sewage treatment, but there are always exceptions to the rule. I doubt this is the norm. I really don't expect anyone to have an answer to this, how could we? Given the toxic nature of a sewer, and the delicate nature of so many tropical fish we keep today, my logic tells me that the large majority of them would die pretty darn quickly simply from shock. While I don't flush live fish, I also don't think someone who does is a horrible person.
I do believe this thread was started simply to ignite a debate for entertainments sake. Awesome
I do believe this thread was started simply to ignite a debate for entertainments sake. Awesome
I've been lucky enough with disease that I've never had to treat a "$2 fish w/ $10 meds" but I think I probably would...what better way to gain experience and knowledge about the pathogen. That way I also wouldn't be scrambling if it happened on a more valuable fish.
Most dead fish in my experience have been from other factors and just end up in the trash.
The only times I have flushed (excluding when I was 5 y.o.) was when I worked at a LFS. I was shocked the first time the manager told me to do it, but honestly, a $3 barb isn't worth treating when you don't have the time or the space. I was really irked however when he threw a sick praecox into the SA cichlid tank for lunch...a big "WTF!?" moment...
Most dead fish in my experience have been from other factors and just end up in the trash.
The only times I have flushed (excluding when I was 5 y.o.) was when I worked at a LFS. I was shocked the first time the manager told me to do it, but honestly, a $3 barb isn't worth treating when you don't have the time or the space. I was really irked however when he threw a sick praecox into the SA cichlid tank for lunch...a big "WTF!?" moment...
I do believe this thread was started simply to ignite a debate for entertainments sake. Awesome
Bob you funny, funny man you! :dance2:
Big ones go in the rose garden
medium and little goes to the crayfish
still more go into the toilet
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by the handiest means possible
Bio: some great research articles there! I have downloaded them to read at my leisure.
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Let the comments continue!
A propostition: One or more of the following
- Bob is having a chuckle, as he watches, incognito, the debate he started here.
- Bob wanted the latest information, for his own files, regarding the most up-to-date research on the subject by the scientific community, and he knew that we, the mostly intelligent and educated AC community would dig it up for him. (example Biomajorstudents excellent references... now Bob has what he needed for his file... and so do I, btw)
- He and Sploke, Viscious_Fish, and Coler have bets going on who provides the best argument against the practice of flushing sick but not yet dead fish.
- After reading and responding to thousands of pleas for help from noobies and non-noobies, breaking up quarrels, banning recalcitrant misbehaving members, and deleting trolls, he has gone off the deep end and is logged onto AC using the computer in the recreation room at the state mental hospital.
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