Mafia #64 ? Cabin Fever - The Play

FF makes a good point here. Seems like he is playing better than last game for sure.



I haven't noticed you kicking any bushes either. In fact I haven't noticed much of anything in your posts that would make me think you are trying to do anything but save LR



Ice makes a good point here



you weren't even mentioned. Why would you be worried about being banished? Do you have something to hide?



What seemed scummy was her defending herself before accusations were made. But I am sure you already knew that, but just are trying very hard to steer attention away from Lab Rat. I wonder why?:confused:



Um he already had by the time you posted this



This is the first thing you said that made sense. I may retract my vote on you yet.



Not a wise post for an innocent to make. But i am sure that you already know that.





Nor is the how scummy to me. It is the when that disturbs me. Defending accusations is one thing defending without accusations is scummy.



Seems to me that knowing the rules would be important don't you?



How about the part where you mention that you love being evil and we are in a game where a few got to choose

pretty weak accusation when if you look to post 44 you see I am questioning LR and Kashta doesn't vote to banish her until post 48



I must admit that lr has made a good point about texas' behavior. keep kicking bushes like that and i might retract my vote.




And another strong point about texas. I am going to be watching you.

It's not so much "saving LR" as it is pointing out where I see flawed logic. But, have I really been letting Ice off so easy? is that not a bush that should be kicked?

Oh, I see, it shouldn't be kicked because he makes a good point in defending your buddy FF.
 
The more I look at the way the voting is going down and how LR is playing I think she is scum. She comes out pleading her innocence time and time again yet it looks more to me like she is scum squirming because she's in the hot seat. She seems too ready to jump on anything that comes along.

I agree that Tex's post was not the best but I'm thinking it was a noob mistake more than anything. LR picked up that mistake and ran with it and is pushing for Tex to be banished. By my count the vote is tied on Tex, LR and FF and I'm now willing to break the tie based on LR's day 1 play.

I vote to banish LR
 
You have to admit that Tex's post was horrible and deserved to be pointed out whether he's a noob or not. I'm not planning to vote for him right now because of it but it is certainly something to keep an eye on as the game goes on.


Not arguing it was a scummy type post and should be pointed out.

But really is it votable or a case building worthy post? Or even something worth being pointed out numerous times?
 
The more I look at the way the voting is going down and how LR is playing I think she is scum. She comes out pleading her innocence time and time again yet it looks more to me like she is scum squirming because she's in the hot seat. She seems too ready to jump on anything that comes along.

I agree that Tex's post was not the best but I'm thinking it was a noob mistake more than anything. LR picked up that mistake and ran with it and is pushing for Tex to be banished. By my count the vote is tied on Tex, LR and FF and I'm now willing to break the tie based on LR's day 1 play.

I vote to banish LR



I agree and as my vote on Zaffy is wasted at this time.


I retract my vote on Zaffy and vote to banish Lab Rat
 
Lab..

Would still love to hear what you think about

Annie
Zaffy
DD
 
Hey guys! This is going to be a fun one, I can tell!


So fun that you haven't posted anything other then this? Is the fun that we are dismantling one another while you sit back and laugh like,dare I say it, a Madman?
 
OK all the posts that Kashta and Wizard have put up so far, lets see if we can find a pattern.

Game on... woo hoo!

First for what? Banishment?

Just early game babble

I can see your point, however, part of your post makes me wonder about your alliance as well. I will need to give some thought over who I desire to banish.


This sounds an awful lot like an excuse, instead of reason. I am sure that ATT has a lot of customers in New Orleans, and you mentioned in the last game that you often post from your phone during the day.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Hmmm :rofl: maybe, but thats dead and gone... for now.


I vote to banish Lab Rat.

Here's why...



I believe the part about how you love being evil. The rest that follows, though? Not a chance.

:bs:



Exactly.



Skimming already, DD?



Ice makes a good point here.



Yes. And yes.

You've made the best case against yourself, Lab. I don't normally place early Day 1 votes in these games but, in your case, I feel pretty confident about this one.



Hehe.. DD skims again. :silly:



I see no reason why anyone would DEFEND themselves, unless they've got something to hide. Seems there's more to this than a little Day 1 chit chat.
First thing Kashta posts that means something.
Gee, friends with the same phone had service and you didn't? Something is sounding scummy in ACville here. Besides the fact that with 3G coverage on your friends phone it isn't like the opportunity to pm wasn't available to you. Does it? :bs:

I vote to banish lab rat

unless something scummier surfaces before nightfall

Followed immedietly by wiz.

I am just making observations. I am not implying anything except that for the first day in day one you seem to be awfully defensive.

Besides, you aren't the only one that I have questioned tonight. Just the only one that seems eager to be defensive.

You hadn't questioned anyone yet.

Reading up from yesterday... I have to point out that this concerns me the way Annie just pops in with a quick vote to place and leaves again.

Nothing else catches your attention, Annie?

Why annie?


First off, Lab Rat, I'm not banishing anyone... lol. For that to happen it needs a majority of townsfolk voting in agreement with each other. What I did was notice something scummy and I placed my vote accordingly. That's what this game is about. It was also just a single vote on you and it was made early enough on the first day that my vote would most likely have changed to somebody else between then and nightfall. Now, based on your (over)reaction, it just might stay on you from here on.

Not only did you get yourself caught up in fairly generic speculation over who might volunteer for an evil role... you got defensive about it right off the bat -- before anyone else had a chance to even accuse you or imply you might be suspect. Then, you listed all these creative "reasons" why you couldn't possibly be evil... but those statements don't wash. I believe you got real worried over tripping yourself up as you've done and you overreacted to the attention you drew upon yourself. All of these factors indicate scummy behavior.

The truth is it would have been very simple for you to phone in a single PM to Pappy while hanging around with your pals all day/evening long at a parade. Given the enthusiasm you give this game, I find that believable. It's not a complicated task, you've confirmed already that you have friends with cell phones who get excellent signal strength in NO (even if your phone signal crapped out), and you don't even have to be sober to send that message asking to be made an accomplice. That takes, what... maybe five minutes? It's clearly not as "impossible" as you try making this sound.

Your reaction to the votes you got also make you seem very suspicious, IMO, which only reinforces the scummy perception I have in your case.... the way you profess your innocence repeatedly (not a convincing thing to do)... the way you continue going on about this.... coming up with more reasons and justification... and so on.



Here in your next post, Lab, you're doing the same thing. In response to my (single) vote, you claim I'm "banishing an innocent." Wizard voted you too around the same time as me and you claim he's following to "vote out an innocent." It was a scummy thing to say once and you've done it twice there, back to back. (Mafia types do this quite often... innocent players, not so much.)



Here is your response to Wizard, but (again), you're being real defensive about this. I don't believe anyone suggested you set out to go to Mardi Gras for the sole purpose of setting up an alibi from where you could (still) easily check your messages and PM a quick reply ........ then come back to the mafia game later to pretend it wasn't possible. Realistically, for you to have done that anyway after getting your PM wouldn't need pre-planning or any forethought. It also wouldn't interfere with your fun or even be difficult for you to accomplish in between your standing around in a crowd, getting something to eat or drink while you were there, finding somewhere you could use a restroom, or whatever else happened with you and your friends in attendance.


Since Lab's text is colored already, I just made some lines larger. To those statements.... Good grief, Lab Rat. Here you claim innocent, innocent, and innocent again. Then you want to drag in IRL friends to defend you too? Lordy!! And then you want to produce photographic evidence? This post is about the most ridiculous thing I've seen you do in any game.

You got defensive when nobody was pointing at you... now you're being even MORE defensive because some of us have pointed out that you're being defensive. You know, when you find yourself waist-deep in a hole that you've dug for yourself.. that's usually a good time for you to stop digging.



Lab Rat.. I see in this post you were thinking of voting for Razz. But why? Prior to this, I don't believe Razz even posted anything yet. So that means you're willing to vote Razz purely on speculation alone? How is that better than those already voting you, not only over speculation, but also for defensive posts, flimsy excuses, professing innocence, etc... ???

More aiming for at Lab_Rat, joining the train, making urself inconspicuous. (more or less)

Not a factual statement there, DD. If you knew nothing about innocents being able to volunteer as accomplices, then yes you did skim -- both the signup thread (where Pappy posted about this) and this thread (see the rules/roles in Post #1).

It's actually rather interesting you would vote me for saying you skimmed. That's hardly a secret in your case, DD.. lmao. In fact, I've never seen a mafia game yet that you've played where you didn't skim your way through the rules and the posts.... and other players talk about that and joke about that all the time. I didn't even vote you for it, say it meant you were scummy, or even "call you out" over it. Yet, you felt strongly enough about this to actually vote me?

In your case, DD, skimming isn't actually a scum-tell... you do it as often when you're innocent as you do when you're evil. That's why I thought it was funny... there was DD being DD. However... the interesting part of this is this: I don't remember you voting everyone else who's said you were skimming before. Maybe I hit a nerve or "something" with you this time. DD ... making a big deal out of something that's very commonplace in these games.



Okay.. so it sucks that I called you a skimmer. Be that as it may I still don't see the big deal, DD. Who else in these games hasn't called you skimmer before? Which games have you played in the past where you weren't skimming? Why is this such a huge arse issue with you in this game, DD?



:rofl:



DD I don't actually feel I "called" you out or anything of the sort. I mentioned you skimmed... then I joked about it. That's all there was to it.

Seems more to me in this case that you wanted to coast along through this game going unnoticed the whole time. And the first time someone mentioned your name (without even leaning you as a suspect for anything), you've just overreacted to that and decided to vote the person for it.



Honestly, DD... even without understanding why you'd vote me for just calling you a skimmer, I would have felt better had you stayed put. Even with that. For you to switch votes now for the simple reason that you'd rather go along with the flow... is rather alarming. That isn't usually your style, DD.

I don't get your confusion about this, Zaffy. Normally when someone gets defensive it's because they're in the hot seat and they get all stressy about it because they're feeling a lot of pressure from others in the form of accusations/suspicions noted by several players or a number votes cast against them. That isn't always a good way to react of course (because it's viewed as scummy behavior), but it happens all the same.

In Lab Rat's case, she got all defensive on her own accord and for no reason. Back at that time there had just been a few posts made where others were talking about general speculation. Nothing of that had been directed at Lab Rat at all. So yes, getting defensive like she did about something generic that equally applies to everyone else in the game too.. it's just odd behavior. And that's why I think Lab Rat has something to hide.

If skimming isnt a scum tell then why mention it?

Okay, last post from me for a while. Going to dinner then I doubt I'll be on much tonight.



You've got that backwards, Dagamoth. I voted Lab Rat because she was defending herself for no reason.... yet. It was premature and her being overly worried about the role she's in.

I wouldn't have voted her if she was defending herself against an accusation made by someone (unless she was doing it poorly)... but at that time no one was accusing her of anything yet. That makes a big difference. It says a lot about her frame of mind... having a guilty conscience. That's why it's suspicious.

You went on to say I did this to steer suspicions away from myself? I don't understand your reasoning there, Dagamoth. There were no suspicions made against me when I voted for Lab Rat. If you saw something somewhere prior to my voting Lab Rat that you felt was casting suspicion on me.. please pull the post(s) to show us.

Just wait it gets better.

FF makes a good point here. Seems like he is playing better than last game for sure.



I haven't noticed you kicking any bushes either. In fact I haven't noticed much of anything in your posts that would make me think you are trying to do anything but save LR



Ice makes a good point here



you weren't even mentioned. Why would you be worried about being banished? Do you have something to hide?



What seemed scummy was her defending herself before accusations were made. But I am sure you already knew that, but just are trying very hard to steer attention away from Lab Rat. I wonder why?:confused:



Um he already had by the time you posted this



This is the first thing you said that made sense. I may retract my vote on you yet.



Not a wise post for an innocent to make. But i am sure that you already know that.





Nor is the how scummy to me. It is the when that disturbs me. Defending accusations is one thing defending without accusations is scummy.



Seems to me that knowing the rules would be important don't you?



How about the part where you mention that you love being evil and we are in a game where a few got to choose

pretty weak accusation when if you look to post 44 you see I am questioning LR and Kashta doesn't vote to banish her until post 48



I must admit that lr has made a good point about texas' behavior. keep kicking bushes like that and i might retract my vote.




And another strong point about texas. I am going to be watching you.

Still on Lab_Rat, mentions that people are defending her, maybe to get those people banished cause you are a bad guy, and want the innocents dead.

Ill be watching both of u when tex gets banished if he is innocent then i may agree with u. I still think there is some kind of communication going on here...
 
Interesting, more people voting for Lab_Rat now then b4, even though tex is more scummy. I wonder why?
 
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