MAFIA #68, Mafia in SPACE game thread, revised and corrected.

[johnlarson66]

I thought she was a townie PR because that's what I do when I have such roles. It's the excitement of having a PR. The past two games when she's been scum she's laid pretty low. This game her behavior was different. Scum don't make the cases on day 1, I don't think I've played a game where scum made a case against someone on day 1. Most of the time they don't want to stand out, don't want to risk anything so they let innocents take the falls.

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So anyone that makes a day one case is not scum? Last game she seemed active to me, much more than she had been, until she UD'ed. I think there are times when DD can post lots and times when she can't.

I also do not think she was building much of a case for jpap and the more I re-read everything it seems like jpap got defensive. I also chalk it up to jpap playing like jpap (except for skimming the nightfall changeO.

Most PR's lay low on day one. Especially the detective. DD never even got an investigation in! I do not see at all how you could have thought DD was a PR.

 

[Lab_Rat]

What was your day one vote?

What was your day one serious input?

You know very well what my day 1 vote was. My day 1 input was slightly more serious than yours. It may be hard for you to believe, but I was trying to not jump the gun from the start like I've done the past couple of games as all it does is get me lynched. Actually, I think day 1 ended up being quite productive in the end, giving me several to focus on for what I see as scummy behavior. Sucks that we lost the detective, but overall it was informative imo.

 

[Lab_Rat]

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So anyone that makes a day one case is not scum? Last game she seemed active to me, much more than she had been, until she UD'ed. I think there are times when DD can post lots and times when she can't.

I also do not think she was building much of a case for jpap and the more I re-read everything it seems like jpap got defensive. I also chalk it up to jpap playing like jpap (except for skimming the nightfall changeO.

Most PR's lay low on day one. Especially the detective. DD never even got an investigation in! I do not see at all how you could have thought DD was a PR.

You're getting the games mixed up. When she UD'ed she was a townie. She was active that game until her emergency when she could not get back to vote. Last game she was scum...she was not very active.

I think she was doing a little bush kicking with jpap, not building a huge case. I'm not convinced jpap is scum either.

Not all PRs lay low on day 1. If I'm a townie PR and I see something scummy I'll point it out. But of course I'm sure you are aware of that. Maybe it's a perspective thing, why I thought she had a townie PR and you can't see it.

 

[johnlarson66]

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4 crew, 4 rebellion, 8 colonists.

The doctor, engineer, and detective will be chosen semi-randomly from the colonists.

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FF, I know you do not want to answer my questions, but this is a serious one, I promise.

Are there 3 or 2 power roles (doctor, engineer, and detective)? Are they still colonists or are they considered crew. This is important as to who wins.

 

[johnlarson66]

You're getting the games mixed up. When she UD'ed she was a townie. She was active that game until her emergency when she could not get back to vote. Last game she was scum...she was not very active.

I think she was doing a little bush kicking with jpap, not building a huge case. I'm not convinced jpap is scum either.

Not all PRs lay low on day 1. If I'm a townie PR and I see something scummy I'll point it out. But of course I'm sure you are aware of that. Maybe it's a perspective thing, why I thought she had a townie PR and you can't see it.

Lab, please stop stealing your patients medication. DD UD'ed last game, she missed nightfall by about 8 minutes. I think she was pretty active last game, but missed nightfall. I think she has done this twice recently. Things have come up, but she had been active. Really the last few games DD has been more active and she has reminded me of the old DD. DD has always been one that it is hard to get a read on.

Most good PR's lay low on day one. Some PR's do jump out there and get themselves killed (ie you and kash). Besides DD getting into it with jpap, I saw nothing to see that she was a PR (or scummy). She picked up something inconsitant with jpap and posted about it.

So you thought DD was a PR, but did not vote with her or help her in anyway. With friends like you, who needs enemies.

 

[jpappy789]

Less than 20 minutes until nightfall and jpap makes a move -



I am still trying to figure out the whole fight. I thought it was when DD called jpap a skimmer for missing the changed nightfall. I think that is the detail that jpap missed and that is what got DD going.

I can't think of many things worse than being called a skimmer by DD.

I am suprised jpap voted DD and I am equally suprised he has not been around.

What was the point of leaving a random vote on Bio?

If you think I missed the skimming part than you are clearly the one skimming. I flat out asked DD if she thought my skimming was scummy and she flat out said that it was because I changed styles and was joking. That's what the entire argument was about and it pissed me off that she clearly couldn't see I was just having fun with the the format, with FF, with all the puns, etc. It was a bunch of BS and I felt that she was trying to grasp at straws and get people to look at me without committing...until the end there.

And it was Friday night, JL. Sorry, I don't make plans around mafia. I changed quick before I had to attend a show for class and then had other plans.

man... i cant believe DD is gone.... plus now there is no detective.... i know a little late lol but you people post too much.... there is a lot to read and think over. with yappers going after dd.... need to check who started it.... for now....

i vote to kick out pappy

but i think my original idea ILM is correct.... maybe they are working together.... i reserve my right to change my vote again to ILM.

I didn't start it, if you're going by votes Mg. And if you're going by the argument then I think it's clear DD started the finger pointing...but that's beside the point. What I'm more curious about is why you're still hung up on ILM? Is it past the joke phase now? What supports me and ILM working together?


I don't like how Lab says she thought DD was a PR. Do we have undocumented workers on this ship too?

 

[Lab_Rat]

Lab, please stop stealing your patients medication. DD UD'ed last game, she missed nightfall by about 8 minutes. I think she was pretty active last game, but missed nightfall. I think she has done this twice recently. Things have come up, but she had been active. Really the last few games DD has been more active and she has reminded me of the old DD. DD has always been one that it is hard to get a read on.

Most good PR's lay low on day one. Some PR's do jump out there and get themselves killed (ie you and kash). Besides DD getting into it with jpap, I saw nothing to see that she was a PR (or scummy). She picked up something inconsitant with jpap and posted about it.

So you thought DD was a PR, but did not vote with her or help her in anyway. With friends like you, who needs enemies.

Last game she didn't UD, though she did miss a nightfall. Last game it took missing two votes to UD. I don't know the old DD, I only know the DD I've played with.

So I suck as a PR...big deal. I've not been playing that long so I can't be as wonderful as you. :worthy: Oh great one, please teach me the way of the mafia game.

I suspected she could be a PR. I did not voice my suspicions because that would not have been pro-town/space shuttle. How the hell could I have voted with her when she didn't even vote until late in the day when I wasn't around? How could I have helped her? Those who voted for DD voted for her when I was not around. :screwy:

 

[jpappy789]

Happy to report the Mrs will be coming home tomorrow. Two stints and her thyroid went nuts. They hare it all under control now.

I see no reason to change my vote. I have not really read much. We shall see what happens.

Glad to hear rich!!!

Bio, how did you go from this (suspecting BOTH of us)...

Hmm. Not much to go on so far. The fact that DD and Jpap are BOTH fighting incessantly, and acting somewhat out of character, actually makes me suspicious of BOTH of them. Is this something preplanned? I note that despite their bickering, neither of them tried to oust the other.

To this (voting DD)? What previous arguments are you basing your vote on?

Well, I don't have much to go on, but I am out of time to ponder it over. Based on previous arguments, I vote to eject Dangerdoll.

And of course the excuse...

I think "Dang, this is what I get when I feel obligated to vote based on a limited amount of information."

I don't like this. The vote merits more explanation IMO.

 

[jpappy789]

Pushing hard??? This is just kicking a few bushes. I think Dag is scummy. There's something about his posting that tells me he is scum, something that is intangible and that you guys may not be picking up on. Every game we've played together I've been able to pick up on whether he was scum or not, even when the rest of the town doesn't see it. I could be wrong, but at this point I'm going to keep kicking around him. I see no reason not to.

I also think Bio has a good chance of being scummy. Maybe she did save Annie, that could very well have happened. No way am I trying to downplay that. And with Annie, I never buy the excuse that he's busy or not going to be around...he uses that all the time.

g/o Rich, I'm glad to hear your wife is doing better g/o

On the topic of you and Dag...

I will back that up. The two times you have been on a communicating team with me you called Dag's role pretty early and were correct.

However, I cannot and will not believe you this time around because I simply do not know your role.

 

[Lab_Rat]

On the topic of you and Dag...

I will back that up. The two times you have been on a communicating team with me you called Dag's role pretty early and were correct.

However, I cannot and will not believe you this time around because I simply do not know your role.

That's fair, I don't expect you guys to believe me when I say that a big reason for suspecting he's scummy is an intangible feeling. I do think his posts have been scummy, so it's not just a feeling. It's possible he and Bio are on the same team together. If both were up for the ejection I would have no problem letting it go to a coin flip. I would also have no problem with a dual ejection.