Mafia #69: Ghost Hunters Game Thread

[[AC] maelstrom]

well labrat sure came flying out of the gate there

 

[Lab_Rat]

well labrat sure came flying out of the gate there

I'm on my break after rounds but before my teaching responsibilities. I got caught up and posted my thoughts about what's gone on. What's the matter Mael, am I picking on your teammates???

 

[Fishfriend1]

well then, lab rat, sorry for misinterpriting your posts. I will try to not look for word twisting since im so bad at finding it.

Mr. Palmer looks up from his book and sees Lab Rat watching him through the window. He sighs and thinks "at this rate the mafia will be thanking me for wasting an entire day on my useless squabble". He decides to start working on his final will and wishes.

 

[johnlarson66]

I was referencing this post -

I am not good a twisting word, in fact i cant. I can rarely find out if words are being twisted, and when i think they are i usually get it wrong. MY words on the other hand, well they can be twisted quite a lot, happens all the time. Lab can tell you how.

Yes Lab, tell us how...

Do you really think FF, Ice and I are all on a team together? Did I read that correctly?

 

[johnlarson66]

I'm on my break after rounds but before my teaching responsibilities. I got caught up and posted my thoughts about what's gone on. What's the matter Mael, am I picking on your teammates???

So now Mael is on this team?

 

[Lab_Rat]

I was referencing this post -

Do you really think FF, Ice and I are all on a team together? Did I read that correctly?

At this point, I'm not going to bet on it, but it is a possibility. Just putting my thoughts out there JL, isn't that what I'm supposed to do? Trying to kick some bushes and all...

I don't trust anyone at this point, and I really don't trust those just willing to go with Ice's whole plan of "better to vote off innocent vet than innocent noob". I say keep innocent vets in the game. Now scum vets I'm all for getting rid of, hence my vote on Ice.

 

[Lab_Rat]

So now Mael is on this team?

IDK, is he?

 

[Kashta]

Interesting post, Lab. I just came up with pretty much the same conclusion.

Then vote me, its who I said to vote for over FF anyway. I fail to see how its scummy to be asked to be lynched though, maybe you're the vet we should have do our investigations?

I'll tell you how this reads scummy, Ice.

If you're innocent and participating in the game, you'll do as well or better for the town (dead or alive) than many of the rest of us. If you're dead (a good spirit), the only thing you can still do is help pick investigations. While active in the game and alive, you'll really help us sort through the lies and schemes to find scum. Frankly, it's easier for just about anyone to pick a decent investigation subject.... even FF if that's how this turns out. Rooting out scum in these games is much more difficult. For these reasons, I'd rather keep you alive (if you really are innocent) than help the mafia by lynching you. I say if the evils want you dead, we should make them use up one of their hits to kill you...... that is if the scum team isn't good enough at this to get you lynched themselves. Now, having considered these points, I'm less inclined to believe you are innocent after suggesting your idea that your death may help us in ANY useful way.

If you're evil, well then.... this little insight you've had about letting yourself get killed may serve an interesting purpose. Like it or not, Ice, you are a reasonable target for anyone on the opposing side. You know this as well as we do, judging from how much you've complained that you usually get killed early in these games. By allowing yourself to get lynched (for some plausible pro-town reason), your apparent willingness to sacrifice yourself for the "good of the town" should pretty much take the wind out of the sails for anyone who might otherwise wanted to lynch you for saying (or doing) something else that seems scummy to us. If they believe you.... the mafia is also less likely to hit a veteran player who has suggested his death may benefit the town more than it benefits the scum.

Now, where does that leave us? You've presented us a cute little WIFOM dilemma. End result is we're less apt to lynch you.... and the mafia is less likely to hit you.

Thus, not only do you manage to stay alive longer than you might have before... you've already presented a convenient defense for still being alive few days from now when others wonder if the mafia hasn't killed you because YOU are on their team.

All things considered, I've decided to call Ice's bluff (too) and take him up on his offer.

I vote to lynch Ice.

I don't believe Ice is as noble minded and self-sacrificing as he hoped to appear. Ice is sharp when it comes to anticipating how a game is likely to go and can strategize well what he needs to do to serve his team's purpose best long before the rest of us get that far. When Ice gets self-protective by saying things that don't actually add up and which psychs us out, that's worth noting as a danger sign.

 

[Madcrawdad]

this early on, i think it's suspect. Before JL started in on FF, I was just going to vote for someone that annoyed me.........

You are pretty quick to point the finger at me though...........

I pointed an early finger at you simply to get you to answer a question that you seemed to be avoiding. When I asked my question, you popped on and off the thread two times without answering. I threw a vote, and you answered within minutes.

As already pointed out, your answers to the questions are a little inconsistent. IMO, it makes you the best D1 vote so far.

Then vote me, its who I said to vote for over FF anyway. I fail to see how its scummy to be asked to be lynched though, maybe you're the vet we should have do our investigations?

Maybe not scummy to request to be lynched....but anti-town for sure.

I vote to lynch FF.

I considered voting for Ice, who I have to say I have leaning innocent as a result of his posts so far. He did exceptionally well in the Gunslinger game, when he didnt have to worry about his posts being twisted by the scumbags.

Trouble is I find it hard to justify voting for someone who is most likely going to turn up innocent. I find it difficult to believe Ice is scummy and has suggested this in order to gain the towns trust.

If you've got Ice leaning innocent (which is a little strange given how early we are into D1), why would you even consider voting him?

I dont want to lose ice either, in fact if it came down to a tie between me and someone that was believed innocent i would try to get myself lynched to save that person.

Very noble of you, Bubba. Please explain how you acting intentionally scummy, in order to get lynched, would help the town.

Now it has been brought up about which is better, lynching an innocent vet of an innocent noob. My biggest concern would be if the player would still be playing. Could we trust if the person that is now dead would still follow along and particapate. To me it is not vet vs noob at all.

So if an innocent were to get lynched I would hope it would be one that stayed into the game. I think FF and Ice both would keep up with the game.

The town needs to vote out the scummiest player, period. Anyone voting based on vet vs. noob is suspect. If the psychic is lynched or hit, all the dead vet detectives in the world aren't going to save the town....it'll be up to all the noobs left then.

If people want to discuss this issue hypothetically, that's okay. If someone actually votes for a candidate because they're an experienced player, though, they should be considered a suspect.

 

[[AC] maelstrom]

I'm on my break after rounds but before my teaching responsibilities. I got caught up and posted my thoughts about what's gone on. What's the matter Mael, am I picking on your teammates???

sheesh didnt know commenting on your posting style made me scum...