Mafia #70: The Time Vortex

[johnlarson66]

Orge, is ZS is innocent, I am going to be one of YOUR top two suspects?

WTF?

You have said YOU know that ZS is mafia from his scum tells. But if you are wrong, then I am a suspect?

Can you explain this to me?

I retract my vote on ZSandmann.

I need to re-evaulate a few things.

 

[the wizard]

ZS and Zaffy have both been pretty unhelpful from what I have seen.

Zaffy was on after I asked his thoughts on the LG/ZS race with out offering anything other than to ask about innocents using code words.

 

[Fishfriend1]

You understand the goal is for the town to kill all the mafia and win? It is not more fun for the game to go on and on. We will start another one.

Why in the world are you bringing me and wiz in this?

Yes, i understand, but would even join to a game where the scum were going to lose no matter what? If so then you have very bad taste.

I brought you two up because you are good players, and would be ideal for scum to turn. You yourself are low on everyone's scum lists, and wiz is relatively safe now that Day 1 is over.

 

[Lab_Rat]

He has been posting less this game than normal right?

If not I could be up all night.:wall: :coffee2:

:laugh:

Lab Rat wastes no time trying to bring down innocents again.

You realize there's a difference, don't you? Bishop was cleared by the newspaper headline which we believe came from townie investigation results. When the town considers someone as proven innocent (like a published investigation or a confirmed role claim) it's a good bet the scum will turn that person because of that perception of innocence. It's happened that way in many games. The evils turn someone the town knows (or knew) they could trust. And veteran players who've learned this become wary in games like this where innocents get turned evil.

The first time I remember this was a Vampire game I played... The very next turns the evils recruited were those who'd already been cleared.

Correct me if I'm wrong, JL... isn't that why you think we should no longer trust Rbishop?

What do you mean I'm trying to bring down innocents? I was saying who I thought scum would likely target. More likely RB than you, but from your reaction I'm wondering if I struck a nerve there...

 

[Fishfriend1]

I vote to lynch Zsand my opinion hasnt changed overnight. Look at my previous posts to find out what that opinion is.

Also:GOOD NIGHT AC-VILLE!

 

[johnlarson66]

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The first time I remember this was a Vampire game I played... The very next turns the evils recruited were those who'd already been cleared.

Correct me if I'm wrong, JL... isn't that why you think we should no longer trust Rbishop?

I said, "There is a chance that Rb was turned. I had him as innocent yesterday."

I do think that an confirmed innocent would be a good choice to turn or hit, unless there might be doctors protection on them.

 

[OgreMkV]

Orge, is ZS is innocent, I am going to be one of YOUR top two suspects?

WTF?

You have said YOU know that ZS is mafia from his scum tells. But if you are wrong, then I am a suspect?

Can you explain this to me?

I retract my vote on ZSandmann.

I need to re-evaulate a few things.

I'm perfectly willing to stake my life and the consumption of a mousepad on Z's status of being a mafia.

If that is indeed the case, then you for sure and probably Noods are considered innocent in my book.

However, if I'm wrong, then we have bigger issues and you are welcome to lynch me. In that case, then based on my thinking, you and noods will be likely suspects. If this is indeed the case, then I'll have to re-evaluate my entire thinking process anyway.

Honestly, John, this is just to keep everyone up-to-date on my thought process. I'm not voting you. I'm not voting noods.

Unless Z reveals himself to be a detective of some type and gives us a different known mafia, then I'm voting for him and will remain so.

Hmmm... could you be the turn and now trying to distract everyone from Z?

:laugh:



What do you mean I'm trying to bring down innocents? I was saying who I thought scum would likely target. More likely RB than you, but from your reaction I'm wondering if I struck a nerve there...

I'm not 100% that the first day headline automatically cleared RB.

 

[rich311k]

I do think it likely that both scum where on G last night. Mafia don't like to all be on an innocent lynch. There was planty of otes to hide on Z though unless they did not want to get him to close. Makes me wonder about the other votes. FF was one of those off votes and now he is happy about the mafia getting recruits.

 

[johnlarson66]

Orge it seems to me that you already are planting seeds today that ZS could be innocent.

There was none of that talk yesterday.

What has changed?

To say that if ZS comes up innocent that I would be one of your top two suspects makes no sense to me. Seems to me you are setting me up.

I don't think you really even want ZS lynched today.

 

[Kashta]

:laugh:



What do you mean I'm trying to bring down innocents? I was saying who I thought scum would likely target. More likely RB than you, but from your reaction I'm wondering if I struck a nerve there...

Lab, you are not a noob at this game and aside from the games you've played already you've read others. Even after I wrote that out for you about turns, which JL already suggested by his post and Ogre thinks would be too obvious, you still act like you don't get it. Who are you trying to fool here? And in that same post you chose to link me right alongside Rbishop who's either a very likely turn or a terribly obvious one. That's not you just "thinking out loud" again or whatever else you'll hope to pass this off as.. it's a totally scummy maneuver to pull. And whether it's your tactic now for coming after me or somebody else in the game, you'd get called out for doing it.

If you've got a case on me, then post it and vote me. Trying to link me instead with someone we can no longer trust is not cool at all.