Mafia 72-Vampires game thread

I don't have time to read right now, should be able tonight if I don't get to caught up in the game.

I just want to ask, what really is the case against me?

That I voted a UD or thought it was a good idea? So did Dag so did innocent Kash.

That Kash thought she had a solid case? Kash is wrong,just because she died innocent doesn't mean I'm automatically evil. 2 good players have gone against each other and both have died innocent before.

I've tried everything to show my innocence.

I didn't try to save myself.

I've answered questions as best I could.

I'm trying to find scum but you guys are so tunnel visioned it doesn't matter anyway.

You think I'm such a good player but have me on a team that either didn't send in a bite or chose to bite someone who was pretty much on an even keel to get lynched when they could have gone after any number of players.

I'm willing to go if its that important to find out for sure what I already know. But you guys are taking the numbers to the limit.

Its 9-3

I get staked and they get a bite its 7-4. Day after if you screw up again and get another innocent its game over 5-5. This is without Slayer/ghost chat shots. If they miss you're really screwed.

All I ask is take me out of the equation,forget that Kash had me as a suspect and look closer from the start.

I'll be on later to read the thread but I have things I need to take care of today.
 
Dagamoth said:
she also did that day 1, something is telling me that the whole vampire team didn't forget to send in a PM in the last two days. However that does mean that the vampires were going to target kashta. Now why would they do that? simply because you, ICE, were going to show up vampire. Kashta would be in the clear for the immediate time being after leading the fight to explode your body with the stake. however FF's little swap screwed you up there and you didn't get the chance to bite Kashta.

I VOTE TO LYNCH AND THEN STAKE ICE!
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TwoHobbies said:
I'm home. Wow some night. I can't believe I'm still up reading this.

Someone asked earlier if I've played on other boards? May have been JB? No I haven't. I said before this game started, I started following along three games ago.

Wish I had something good to say to you FF...I'll just leave it at way to go Mr Palmer.

Oh, wait I VOTE TO STAKE ICE....no sense in putting that off.

DAG: You hit the nail on the head. I don't understand why others don't see what's going on.

Do you guys really think the Vampire team is sloppy enough to not call in a bite. Give me a break!! They even immediately looked to pin a missed call in on me. Funny...I know I told everyone I wouldn't be around at nightfall, and I wasn't. I didn't say I may not be, or I hope to be back, I said I won't be around. The vampires called in there bite on Kash, it can't go through if she's dead. They didn't expect a last minute flip by anyone. They were looking for a replacement for Ice. Who better than someone we trust that just helped us kill a vampire.
Look over the posts...Two vampires Ice and Wizard put pressure on MR. Palmer (A innocent townee) to switch, all the time telling him to do what he thought was right. Would any of us not have targeted FF. How much easier can it get. They then both jump out and vote him.
I'll be around tomorrow to convince anyone who doesn't vote Ice, and Lady I need to start with you.
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Just had to put these 2 posts together. You both seem pretty sure there was a bite sent in and it was on Kash, both claiming it was to "replace" Ice. Ok lets say the bite was sent in, and everything went as you apparently thought it would...do you really think Kash would of been in the clear? I don't see it that way, her post about wanting the stake off and telling ppl to keep their votes on her would of worked against her big time had that happened and I think Ice is smart enough to know that.
What this looks to me is a nice plan that was set up in the den, did you guys send a bite in on Kash and it got messed up?
 
Fishfriend1 said:
Lynch/Staking-Ok, we know that.

Priest protection-Comes first. If the Priest protects the to-be-turned i see no reason to ever state that the person had been targeted. Can Lab clarify this point?

Vampire bite/slayer's staking (if vampire bites slayer and slayer stakes vampire then it will be a coin toss as to who dies)-Thats why the Slayer's move was noted. IF could have ended with the slayer dieing and then we would need to know. Can lab clarify on that too?

Good soul staking**only 1 in the game and cannot be before night 3

Investigations

Untimely deaths
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If the priest protects someone targeted it will be incorporated into nightfall.

If someone dies or is turned it will be incorporated into nightfall.

Lady G said:
Yep, Pap is with them...and I could see him realizing what an opportunity they had by doing that.

Again, IF the bite was for Kash....it would of been mentioned.

Lab, not sure if you will and if you don't it's that is fine....can you clarify if there was not bite sent in?
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I cannot clarify that.

I follow the order of events listed in the first post. Events that are not possible are not written about. That is as much as I can answer.
 
Current vote count:

FF-1- Ice (815), Wiz (820), Rich (823)
Ice-7- Dag (824), FF (831), 2H (893), Chill (927), jm1212 (933), jb (942), Noods (974)
LG-0- jm1212 (840)
Dag-1- LG (886)
2H-0- Noods (913)
 
Only have a minute here, have to finish some things up then I'll be back. I really am seeing something here with Dag and 2Hob, they don't say the "think" that is what happened or that is what "could" of happened they both flat out say, there was a bite sent out and it was on Kash.
Now, yes until proven otherwise that could of happened but only the ones who sent in the bite and the mod no what happened for sure for them to both say it DID happen, well just doesn't sit well with me.
Their finger pointing at Ice is what has made me back off him a bit in my thoughts. I am wondering if they did send the bite in on Kash, thinking the votes were going to Ice and would get rid of both of them on the same night.

So obviously they are my highest suspects. As far as others, well I'm just torn all the way around.
We have,
Wiz- really not seeing to much that says scum from him

JB- he always has me going back and forth just have no read really, I want to say scum but can't really put anything on him for it so I can't

FF- well he is just everywhere and always is, never know what to think of him. He very well could be scum but at the time I am leaning him more innocent

Rich- really not to much his way either

Noods- now she is one that has my interest, just not getting a good read on her at all

Ice- OMG, he always worries me. My first instinct was he was evil, since I see other things that just make me question that. Will not say I have him leaning innocent, but can't really say I think he is evil either.

Chill-Has my interest I have been wondering about him quite a bit and nothing he has said has made me feel any better about him

Jmax-Hasn't really put anything out there as far as her own thoughts really, she is up there on my list also.

JM-Wow, not sure what to say about him gives me more of a evil feel in his posts.

So well I have way more feeling evil then there can be but my tops would have to be
Dag
2Hob
Noods
Jmax
Jm

I personally would love a run off between Dag and 2Hob, but so many are on Ice I doubt that would happen so maybe we could do a 3 way if others feel comfortable with Dag and 2Hob
 
Lab_Rat said:
If the priest protects someone targeted it will be incorporated into nightfall.

If someone dies or is turned it will be incorporated into nightfall.



I cannot clarify that.

I follow the order of events listed in the first post. Events that are not possible are not written about. That is as much as I can answer.
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Ok, thank you Lab :)

So from this we know the bite was not protected. So either the hit WAS on Kash or it wan't sent in.
 
Ok I got finally got a chance to read over the thread, I'm going to break it down to peoples posts and questions instead of trying to make 1 post with all the pulled posts.

TwoHobbies said:
I'm home. Wow some night. I can't believe I'm still up reading this.

Someone asked earlier if I've played on other boards? May have been JB? No I haven't. I said before this game started, I started following along three games ago.

Wish I had something good to say to you FF...I'll just leave it at way to go Mr Palmer.

Oh, wait I VOTE TO STAKE ICE....no sense in putting that off.

DAG: You hit the nail on the head. I don't understand why others don't see what's going on.

Do you guys really think the Vampire team is sloppy enough to not call in a bite. Give me a break!! They even immediately looked to pin a missed call in on me. Funny...I know I told everyone I wouldn't be around at nightfall, and I wasn't. I didn't say I may not be, or I hope to be back, I said I won't be around. The vampires called in there bite on Kash, it can't go through if she's dead. They didn't expect a last minute flip by anyone. They were looking for a replacement for Ice. Who better than someone we trust that just helped us kill a vampire.
Look over the posts...Two vampires Ice and Wizard put pressure on MR. Palmer (A innocent townee) to switch, all the time telling him to do what he thought was right. Would any of us not have targeted FF. How much easier can it get. They then both jump out and vote him.
I'll be around tomorrow to convince anyone who doesn't vote Ice, and Lady I need to start with you.
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Please oh please show me where I put pressure on FF to switch votes. I even said to him I'm not asking him to save me.I just wanted his opinion of you for future reference.

TwoHobbies said:
Can we PLEASE get past the FF crap. I believe he's a townee, but even if I'm wrong we can take him out last.

Anyone who thinks the vampires missed a bite is crazy. They have a team of at least three, and Jpap as a advisor. If they are that bad of players, why haven't we taken out a single one yet.

Is it not at least possible that they bit a dead Kash, and the slayer also staked a dead Kash.

And now a question I would like cleared up. Would that not mean our slayer still has two stakes?
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Because all your focus are on the vocal ones or what you all consider good players. You keep pushing off the slips by certain players as thats just FF.

When I pull some of his posts maybe you'll see what I mean, if you go back to his earlier posts you'll see it too. Wait no you won't because you are his team mate.
 
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