Mafia #89 Trouble in Kindergarten

[the wizard]

darn it, you're gonna make me use the S word again, Wiz. It actually looks more like you are pulling for pipe cleaners here.

it still doesn't change my thought on it. Yes, he wasn't pushing the thought to the side so to speak but the statement wasn't as bold a statement could be coming from Ice. In other words, it was basically blown off.

as for what I am doing for the town, if you would stop asking me to prove things to you, I might be able to focus on other people.... but that said, tell me, you know, in case I missed it. What have you done?

You are the one trying to tie me and Ice up as scum buddies with your posts saying Ice is trying to protect me. Maybe because I have been less active during the week you and your scumbuddies thought I would be easy prey to wrap this game up. It doesn't work that way.

 

[Dangerdoll]

again, i will say... convenient.... that's the second time I've used that term with you in case you are keeping count on that one. i have read the thread and don't really see anything more than you coming out at me and then asking me again.... but i will go back and run though the 8 pages.... just for shoots n ladders

 

[jbradt]

Wiz...

Check out noods avatar and I think you will find the crayons.

Noods (I think) called Wiz out for being "finger pointy". I took this post as a joke, but it could be intended to float an accusation.

Noods, why is your answer to Bally inside the quote? It looks like you admitted to stealing.



You have good eyes DD. I didn't see the crayon paper in her hair.



You can have my pack Ice I have more in my desk.



Mister Zaffy, if you are driving you should let me take care of your sippy cup for safe keeping until you get back.

Again, could be taken as accusatory for so early in the game.

This is the second time you have used this. The first was when Bally voted you. Are you getting nervous to be drawing attention?

The Wiz/DD debate again. It is an interesting note, however that Baly voted DD then was hit.

I can understand not wanting to waste your vote on a UD.



What I don't understand, is 4 minutes before nightfall you place a singleton vote. UN had 3 votes before you placed this vote so my question is, Why is it bad to waste your vote on a UD, but it is ok to place a singleton vote just before nightfall?

Was it because the votes were so spread you felt you would blend in?

UN was a done deal, were you comfortable with that and didn't want to be on him when he flipped?

Wiz calls out Noods for her changing her vote to an equally unimpactful one.

UN had been called out by Ice at least twice up to an hour before nightfall and showed no indication of switching his vote.

Why, with 4 minutes to go would you think he would switch?

It seems you are dancing around the question of what makes it ok to place a singleton vote so close to nightfall. A wasted vote is a wasted vote.

Still talking to Noods.

In light of Wiz's recent post explaining his position, I can kinda see where he's coming from. From one perspective, it does look like Noods's statement and actions didn't line up (ie: not wanting to waste her vote, but putting a singleton vote out there). Thing is, that no matter where Noods placed her vote at that time, it would have been wasted. Even if she had voted UN, it wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome.

The rest of Wiz's posts are mostly the DD debate and defending himself. I still don't like the DD debate one bit. Seems too over the top to be genuine.

I've got my suspicions of Wiz, but there's still that nagging doubt in my mind.

 

[the wizard]

you posted one at 630 I fixed it at 730 and it was right above DDs posts.


Ok so I hate this game because I couldn't sleep last night thinking about it.

I vote to lynch Wiz


The explanation above with vote count was the icing on the cake and helped verify my thoughts after the wasted vote, to much agreeing with me and this is what really got me after thinking.Maybe Wiz would like to explain.....(Though he will say he didn't know what the count was) Why didn't you vote Noods when her wasted vote was so glaring to you? Especially when it was a tie at the time you placed it?

My 2nd suspect is Kash I don't have time right now to go thru the posts and pull

3rd suspect I can't narrow down. I think FF but obviously I have no proof and don't know if they would throw a no vote out, I'd think at least a made up case and vote but maybe not if in a hurry and just a post and run.

After the way Kash went after Rich even after the explanation has me leaning him innocent. DD I feel is innocent and JB is the one I'm most unsure of.

so in order I'd say
Wiz
Kash
FF/JB
Rich
DD
Ice

That is correct Ice I posted a vote count and an hour later you fixed it. then DD showed up.

During that hour I was going back and forth through the pages of nothing looking for something to justify a vote.

When DD came back on I was just looking to see if she had a real answer to what she had done to help the town and all she had done was concoct a scum den team of Ice and Wiz. To be honest I didn't read your fixed post. Usually when someone posts that it is a funny slur on someone and I was more concerned with placing a vote.

 

[jbradt]

I need to take a break and do some actual work for a little bit. But I've looked into the 3 I find most suspicious at this time. I'd be comfortable voting either Kash/DD. My hesitation of Wiz makes it harder for me to vote for him since one more mistake loses the game. Hopefully tomorrow will be more active than today and some more will come out to cement a decision.

 

[Dangerdoll]

should i guess at what i think you thought there was something to question or should I use my own judgement?

 

[jbradt]

should i guess at what i think you thought there was something to question or should I use my own judgement?

Was this to me or Wiz? If it was to me, I'm all about hearing what you thought.

 

[the wizard]

DD, Ice even based his vote because he says I attacked noods for a singleton vote. Look at sat and yesterday and you will see I questioned noods and I questioned Rich. When they answered my questions, I understood their thoughts at the time of the posts they made and moved on to try to find something else to question. You only claim linking me and Ice as scum buddies as what you have done. I agree there hasn't been much to find in the thread but there has been something.

 

[the wizard]

wiz, to finally answer your question, I think I have been saying why I suspect you for quite some time, why I thought Ice was trying to push the heat off of you. This what I am seeing as something to help out with the town or class, whatever you want to call it. Wouldn't you say that's helping? Ir is the reason you're not seeing it because I have had my pick on you? It is there though Wiz.

This is the weakest part of your argument DD. This seems to be the only thing I can find you saying you have done. The problem is, Ice doesn't push the heat off of scum buddies. We have heard from Ice himself that he will throw a team mate under the bus just to make himself look good to the town.

 

[the wizard]

Also since I have no idea when night fall is as our teacher seems to be passed out.

I vote to lynch Noods


Until I get a satisfactory answer to my question. I don't understand her vote for Wiz and want to know why he looked more suspect then UN who was sitting on a UD even after being called on it.

I'm also willing to vote Rich because I think his reasoning is erratic at best.

Another question is can anyone point to a better reason to vote someone then UN last night? I don't know who was or wasn't around at night fall except for Noods and LG. If you all were here would you have moved to UN or stayed put and why?

If I were not already on UN, and I were here at night fall, I would have switched to UN. Simply because not only was he on a UD, but he was on a UD with a history of UD and was called on it a couple of times. He did post after being called on it so it wasn't as if he couldn't switch his vote.

Ice, is this what you were refering to by saying I agreed with you too much?

I don't get it. You asked a question ofeveryone and I answered your question that just happened to line up with your thoughts on the subject. If you notice, you also voted noods in that post, and while I did have issues with noods, after she answered me fully and I thought about it I just didn't get a scum vibe from her. You also are calling me for voting DD while it was tied.

I could have taken an easy road and voted Noods but I didn't think she was scum. I can't really tell about Rich didn't have a read on him as I can never seem to read you. I didn't agree with Rich's post voting you but maybe you sucked me in with the way you posted. Reading posts hours after the fact is different than reading them aas they are being posted.