Mafia 92: Night of the living Mafia... the play

[Madcrawdad]

That is what I meant about them possibly being opportunistic. But without them communicating it could be utter chaos for them to try to coordinate for the win. sounds like they just play a game of chance. :huh:

I think the zombies should use their hits if they can win as a zombie team like JB stated. This could be a quick game though if that does happen.

If possibly indiscriminate killing and a somewhat "random" win would float the zombie team boat, they should go for it. I would hope that dead or alive, though, any town-aligned player would take pride in running the mafia out of town.

 

[TankHobbyist]

To all discussing the issue of town vs. non town aligned zombies: 1st Per the rules only lynched townies will become zombies. therefore the question becomes after a lynch does the person care about the town that lynched him or is he interested in winning for himself? Just a thought.

And 2h i believe we played 1 game togher previously but ither you or I was killed off rather quickly i dont remeber

 

[Fishfriend1]

Well, let us know when you do. It tends to make me concerned when someone who likes to post as frequently as you do says "Um, I may not be around," once the game starts.

Congrats on the new job, but lets not consider it an excuse to disappear.

I'll still be here during the day, just not at night is all.

why would you carry over a grudge list from one game to the next? seems senseless and anti town.

I don't, but there are players I've always wanted to hit...

 

[TankHobbyist]

I don't, but there are players I've always wanted to hit...

Cough Cough Un lol

 

[rich311k]

To all discussing the issue of town vs. non town aligned zombies: 1st Per the rules only lynched townies will become zombies. therefore the question becomes after a lynch does the person care about the town that lynched him or is he interested in winning for himself? Just a thought.

And 2h i believe we played 1 game togher previously but ither you or I was killed off rather quickly i dont remeber

This is pretty much what I meant. I guess we will not know until it happens.

 

[Fishfriend1]

Cough Cough Un lol

lol, maybe..

 

[dirtydawg10]

If possibly indiscriminate killing and a somewhat "random" win would float the zombie team boat, they should go for it. I would hope that dead or alive, though, any town-aligned player would take pride in running the mafia out of town.

I hear what you're saying Mad but if an innocent Townie is killed they are no longer on the Town's side...they are on the Zombie team and should try to help the Zombie team win.

 

[IceH2O]

Ice, don't you think its kinda early to already be "watching" 3 other people?

Its never to early to be watching players. I'm watching everyone just wanted these 3 to know I was particularly interested in them due to what was said and respond to.

You have a problem with me watching those 3? Same to you FF, I see you also had a post questioning me about my watching post. Is there a reason you 2 are worried?

 

[dirtydawg10]

At least that's what JB's clarification leads me to believe. With that said it would probably be easier (due to typical game numbers) to kill off mafia than to kill off all the innocents. Then as you described before it may not be easy to tell who's who early on. I would not hold it against a zombie to kill someone on the innocent team in order to give the zombie team the win. That's not helping the mafia it's helping the zombies.

 

[RazzleFish]

Seems to me that, with this format, there's the potential for the town to lose quite a few folks rather quickly. In a normal game, things usually start poorly for the town in terms of townies being lynched early. It could get worse here with poorly placed vig/zombie kills. Any townie being lynched needs to really think hard as to whether taking their vig kill is worth it, especially early on, when there's not much to go on. As the zombie kill isn't mandatory, if someone doesn't have a strong suspect, they shouldn't take the kill IMO.

I agree and disagree, yes there won't be much info and without info the hit would probably be misplaced but at the same time how many times have you had a gut feeling about someone but had no way to prove it and were right. I'd hate to be lynched and not be able to take a shot especially if it turns out I was right about who I wanted to hit. I guess what I'm saying is just use your own judgement.

On that note I do think I'll watch you 3, doubt all 3 are mafia as the posting is to close but I could see Mad being mafia and thinking up the idea or Rich or Doom being mafia latching onto an innocent Mad idea.

I agree that the the player who now has the option to hit someone based on a gut feeling should think long and hard about whether or not it is worth it. However, Since they do not have any connection to a particular team but the zombies, I would hate to see someone go easy in a game like this. If I were to be linched and had the option of hitting someone to help the zombie team, I'd take it but that's just me. Just some open advice, any zombies who decide to use their hit should pay very close attention to the next days events.

Wow, kinda jumping in there aren't you, Ice?

So, Ima be tthe first to say my reasons I may not be here: i gots me a job! just gotta fugure in ma new hours with the game, but it shouldn't affect me in the game much, besides mssing nightfall from Wed on. Job starts wed, I work till 10pm at the latest, so... anyway, exuses over, lets get kraken!

First off, congrats on the job but am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in this statement?

As far as your gut feeling, as a townie I've been on the receiving end of your gut feeling more than once. Gut feelings don't usually pan out.

Obviously any zombie can take their shot, just saying that vig shots early in the game (especially gut feeling and OMGUS, which is all there will be likely to go on early) are less likely to work in the town's favor.

At any rate, as JB mentioned in the sign-up that zombie kills would take place the night after an innocent was lynched...so, any zombie wishing to take a shot should at least pay attention to the game for the following day, as opposed to calling in any kills immediately upon being lynched and then disappearing.

I agree that eary in the game OMGUS and gut feelings tend to be less than spot on but I wouldn't count on every gut feeling to be "less than favorable".

...here.

Not sure I can really agree or disagree completely. Seeing as any zombie technically isn't a townie anymore and thus only wins by a different outcome it will depend on the individual as whether they want to use it or not. As Rich said, early on it probably wouldn't come down to a game deciding hit. My best guess is that at that point people will still be in the mindset of trying to kill mafia, but who knows...maybe this is the game where you can use the shot on that special person who has ticked you off in a previous game :

No OMGUS between games! :lipssealedsmilie:

This is incorrect. If the zombies win, then the zombies win, not the town or mafia. Hence, they have no allegiance except to the zombie team. Also, if the zombies win, they win as a team, not the one who casts the final hit winning alone.

The hit will be due the next nightfall.... not 24 hours. Also, the vig role was cut from the game. Not sure if I screwed that up in the rules in this thread or not. The townie PRs consist only of the doc and detective.

Hope that helps clear things up.

Thank you JB that helps a lot!


Just some of my thoughts...