Mafia 95 - "Mayor's Mansion" (The Play)

[the wizard]

:lol:
Yes, yes it is!! I have my agenda for what I did, I know it may not make perfect (or imperfect) since to most...but I had my agenda. I thought, it would in the end help unfortunately it did not

fixed.

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[Zaffy]

I think that you're missing the point that at least I am trying to make. There are logical reasons to believe MC dropped at least 3 hints as to his invest. We could probably find more "what if's" by looking back knowing what we know now. So take that for wrote, what OTHER evidence do you have? Who else are you looking at?

I think the testimony of the confirmed detective is enough to warrant the death penalty in UN's case. MC called UN scum, right as nightfall hit. His dying word was directed at UN and clear as day.

As far as who else I'm looking at. I think LG is wearing a scum-hat this round. She's been contradicting herself and talking in circles. I like her for scum queen.

I'm trying to decide who in the argument about MC's other "hints" is being genuine in their belief, and who is just trying to muddy the waters. I'm torn on Pappy, I think Chill's support of his is questionable, They both came in with quotes from the same early game post in quick succession. That is suspect to me. Dawgs support of the same bothers me too, it feels fishy. I can accept that someone might believe that MC had investigated Jpappy based on what's been brought up. So I'm not willing to call any of them outright scum yet, I'm still watching that interaction.

I need to read closer about the whole DD light reflecting off a weather balloon and igniting swamp gas theory, but my gut says it's bunk. (That means I don't buy that MC voted her to cover his detective tracks, or that he voted her to mark her as his scum invest.)

I guess it was implied. DD thinks MC voted for her because she was innocent. How could he KNOW she was innocent unless he investigated her?

DD, this is hogwash.

I'd like to know if Ballyhoo is still playing, other than votes to stay alive she has done nothing.

UN said that AAF seems coached, I see what he's saying, could that be a scummates name drop. Night 1 AAF was all over the place, since then he's calmed down.

Zaffy, I do agree it is odd he wouldn't of mentioned anyone else if he had investigated them and I really don't know if he was just trying to get UN to go back and read and maybe switch his vote if he was innocent, or if he had invested him. I just don't know, just like I don't know for sure why he would vote Doll as soon as night was over, but I really doubt as others were trying to say that he did it because he thought she was innocent.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Sorry I've been gone for so long, work was really busy today and I just got caught up on the thread.

I believe it was because he wanted to appear obviously NOT the detective... but just wishy washy... he was being careful so as not to be suspected as detective which in the end screwed himself because he not only convinced the mafia of not being the detective, he also convinced those who voted that he was not a townie either.

Huh? Even after reading everything that followed this makes no sense.

I could see MC getting caught up in an OMGUS situation with UN and getting frustrated.

Me too.

LG you thought Lab was scum because she told MC to vote for him. But at the same time you thought MC was the detective?

Tell me how that works.

It doesn't matter if you didn't want to point it out to the mafia, your reasoning for your vote is an obvious lie.

I have not jumped on MC investigating me, in fact I have stated very clearly that I am not letting anything MC said get tied with any invest result. It is impossible to know who he chose N1. You on the other hand are gung ho about him investigating DD and have yet to come up with any other evidence as to why she is scum.

This post and many others of Pappy's I agree with. I am almost 100% sure LG is scum after reading through everything today. G, you had me lolling many times.

Right after nightfall Lab jumps right into voting DD, and gets the ball rolling against her. The fat that she compeltely skipped over MC's last post is interesting too. I would think that an innocent would at least mention her reasoning for not finding me suspect.

This post in reference to Labby caught me as really interesting. It seemed to me that Labby and her team having been planning to kill DD, and that they saved a scenario like this for when they got MC. (Who they probobly knew was the detective)

The back and forth between LG and Labby, along with the lone post last night appears to be two team-mates covering their tracks.

I think JB mentioned this earlier, but I also find it scummy that Dawg would narrow it down to only two choices. (Both of who are innocent IMO) This is also scummy, he could be the third member of a team with Labby and LG.

This sounds like what probobly happened IMO. I bet that MC was looking for a nice easy place to harbor a vote, knowing that he could change it as nightfall progressed.

I vote to lynch LG, but will switch to Lab or Dawg if they come up for the lynch.

UN, show me exactly where I voted for DD please. After MC was revealed to be the detective at nightfall I went back immediately and looked at the timing of his vote for DD vs. the termination of night 1. Kash was being so dreadfully slow about posting nightfall that I had time to go back and look at that stuff before night 2 was over. I was excited that maybe MC had investigated DD and found her to be scum so I wanted to hear everyone's thoughts.

We have our second scum here with UN. I do like the distancing he's got going in there with LG. Maybe they're hoping that if one of them is lynched the other will be cleared.

I understand that people can't believe he'd invest UN, I find it crazy too. But I can't pretend that I know what MC was thinking when he sent in his PM. Perhaps it was just a hunch or gut call, I looked back and couldn't find anything that would have made me invest UN. He is calling out UN and only UN for an hour straight before night, and his dying words so clearly call UN scum. That is cold hard evidence against a scumbag, everything else is conjecture and what-ifs?

That is not cold hard evidence. That is your interpretation of what he posted. Cold, hard evidence would have been MC saying "I investigated UN and he is scum".

Well, I know of at least TWO of em you got wrong

So Chill is innocent too?

Lab is scum, and also picked up on this. She wanted to lynch DD right out of the gate, and tried to lead the town in that direction by posting so quickly. This is shown by how she disregarded the other aspects of nightfall (especially regarding the interactions between me and MC). Also, she didn't pursue after me because she KNOWS I'm innocent, and didn't really put much effort into analyzing MC's final post (calling me mafia) as she knows it was a mistake on his part and that I'll likely get lynched for it. She can then tell the town I told you so, and appear much less scummy.

I see the interaction between LG and Lab as distancing. LG's vote on LAb on night 2 seemed like distancing to me. LG has been downright scummy too.

:lol: Say no to crack, kids.

I would like to hear from Lab when she gets back on to see if her thoughts have changed since her last post. I would still say DD and UN are my top suspects with Lab and LG close behind. DD and UN mostly for insisting that they think MC voted DD right after nightfall because she was innocent.

I feel even more strongly that LG is scum. I also think UN is scum with her. DD I am unsure of at this point, though I would not be surprised if she is scum. Give me a minute and I'll do a nice color coded list of everyone left in the game.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Oh yeah, before I put together my color coded list...I vote to lynch LG. Be gone, scum!

 

[the wizard]

G, G, G, I have been reading the days events and OMG you are scummy.

After MC was lynched, you started accusing JP of badgering him into submission. You are basically accusing him of being scum for this.

The problem I have with that is this, we were both scum with JP in the last game. Not once did he badger anyone. Yet today you are talking like it is how he plays when he is scum. What I have seen from JP's questioning of MC is someone who saw something that didn't make sense and asking about it. Pretty much like the "badgering" he is doing with you.

Face it G. Like everyone that has been up for the lynch this game, your posting has dug your own hole.

As for your post saying my vote should be there too,

I vote to lynch LG

For the skimmers that haven't read my posts to her, She pushed the MC voted DD so he invested her, she has stated that she thought MC was the Det, but voted Labby randomly becaquse she told him too. She is accusing JP of a badgering when scum play style which I know first hand is not a scum play style (and she does too) She is floundering and can't keep her story straight.

 

[the wizard]

What exactly to you think I was attempting.

What I think you were attempting was to keep me in an unfavorable light in the eyes of the town. What you did basically boils down to twisting what I said in my post.

What I think you are attempting is to pull the wool over the towns eyes. I feel real good that we are lynching scum tomorrow night and when G is gone we will get the rest of you one at a time.

 

[Kashta]

UN, show me exactly where I voted for DD please. After MC was revealed to be the detective at nightfall I went back immediately and looked at the timing of his vote for DD vs. the termination of night 1. Kash was being so dreadfully slow about posting nightfall that I had time to go back and look at that stuff, re-tile the bathroom, alphabetize my DVD collection, and clean out the garage before night 2 was over. I was excited that maybe MC had investigated DD and found her to be scum so I wanted to hear everyone's thoughts.

^^ Fixed.



Longest nightfall I remember was when Bishop modded. It lasted over an hour.

..... Care to wager, Lab, if I can make it 90 minutes?

 

[Chill]

Actually what I was doing was trying to ensure this wasn't a case of two innocents dead set on each other - we've certainly seen that before. Having reread all your posts I was wondering if some of your word choices were influenced by your PM from our crazy hostess. I was hopeful for a moment that I had you wrong.

 

[Lab_Rat]

Most likely scum
LG - She is pretty much screaming out that she is scum
UN - Scum here as well. See earlier posts if you need clarification why.
DD - Good possibility that the scum team decided to try to sacrifice DD when MC showed detective. They must have thought that MC investigated DD when he voted her as quickly as he did after night 1 (regardless of whether he actually did or not). I think LG was trying to make herself look golden when DD flips scum by being the first to be so aggressive by voting DD right after night 2.
AAF - Agree with the comments that he seems like someone is holding the reins now. Play much less frantic and more composed than day 1.
Chill - Thought he was scum going into night 2, now seems less scummy but idk if that's because others are screaming out that they're scum
Zaffy - I don't like how he called MC's parting comments to be cold hard evidence that MC investigated UN and that UN is scum (though I agree UN is scum)
Mad - no read yet
Bally - Is she even playing?
Dawg - Can't tell yet, want to lean townie
Rich - Haven't seen anything scummy from him
Wizard - Aggressive play but seems pro-town to me
Ninja - Seems pro-town to me
Rbishop - Seems pro-town to me
JB - Leaning townie
Jpappy - Leaning townie
Most likely innocent

 

[the wizard]

addendum to my vote post.........

G, if JP badgered MC into submission as you, and only you seem to suggest, where were you with your badgering claims while it was going on? Where were you before we lynched MC?

Where were your claims that he was Detective before the noose? outing him at that point would not have endangered him.