Mafia 101 - Blarney Castle: Return of the Leprechauns - Game Thread

There have been three hard stands in the game from what I can tell.


LB ---> Kash
Kash ---> LB both were innocent, both died


Wiz ---> LB LB was innocent, she died. (also the vote on LB and the bite on Kash really shows a 1 2 punch for the scum, to get us to kill LB with the vote and even while she's arguing with Kash take out Kash with the bite. They knew full and well who was innocent during that whole scenario which further causes me to believe that chill was the non-com lep (would make sense why he gave up on the game on that first night, who wants to be a non-com scum) since they knew that both were innocent despite the fact that most of the town believed that it was an either, or scenario.


JB ---> O3T This is the strongest evidence for JB being either innocent or at the least the non-com lep since he was the first onto O3T and was so diligent about it that he actually turned me onto a vote on O3T by questioning my reasoning repeatedly since my initial reaction was that (and get this) IT WAS JUST A TINY SLIP THAT COULD BE EASILY EXPLAINED. Keep in mind folks this was THE ONE decent vote we've made this game.


Go back and look for yourself who was supporting the lynches of innocents and who was supporting the lynches of scum. And since I know that I was hesitant to put my vote on O3T I'll save you the looking and tell you right now. Like I said earlier, if you don't know who to lynch lynch me, it will be illuminating. I also voted for LG, and frankly was certain that because of how aggressive and vocal she was being she was scum. Frankly, if you look at the two meaningfull posts I've made you can see why I'm after Wiz, first, It was wrong of me to ignore a slip, since a slip is the only thing that has gotten us a clean kill now I'm going to look for more slips. Second, I had been more or less quiet and was watching and letting things happen, I watched LG get very vocal and then get killed, the only regret was the person she was vocal against was also killed and wound up being innocent. So if you're wondering about the sudden change in Fozzy, its because I've seen the importance of both paying attention to tiny slips, and the importance of being openly vocal against who you think is the highest probability for being scum.

Or I'm (as Wiz posited) scum, and just now feeling confident and now I'm drawing as much attention to myself as possible and actively trying to get an innocent killed, because it'll totally work out for me if I'm this hard on Wiz and he turns out to be innocent. (<---- sarcasm)

Frankly the fact that Wiz is so confident that I'm scum and not voting for me is funny, I'd say whichever of us backs off has something to loose from being too overt, or worse actually being this outspoken and seeing the person you're after go down and be innocent. Wiz, if you started pushing for me you could get me, I'm noobish, overconfident, obnoxious, and (from your perspective) actively trying to kill an innocent or at least cast dispersion on them, why did you suddenly back off? Could it be that your scum buddies are telling you its a bad idea to go after me because even if you kill me it will only illuminate who you truly are?

Yet, here I am, harping on the same note I've been harping on this entire game day. I'm not possitive that Wiz is scum, but based on his slip and the following reaction I'm pretty sure he is. To the point that I'm willing to stick my neck out there and possible be lynched by my own team since I feel that if they kill me it will only verify what I'm saying and my goal is to see as many people go down vocally before we run out of enough voters to do anything.
 
typo right at the beginning I meant four, there have been FOUR hard stands I can see.
 
fozzy reminds me of me when i was first scum actually. i was so excited at the beginning that i talked and talked and talked. then once people were getting serious i got nervous and sat back. then once the game kept going my teammates in the den started telling me that i needed to talk so i started talking and asking them what to say. this is what he reminds me of and i think him and JB are scum.
 
There have been three hard stands in the game from what I can tell.


LB ---> Kash
Kash ---> LB both were innocent, both died


Wiz ---> LB LB was innocent, she died. (also the vote on LB and the bite on Kash really shows a 1 2 punch for the scum, to get us to kill LB with the vote and even while she's arguing with Kash take out Kash with the bite. They knew full and well who was innocent during that whole scenario which further causes me to believe that chill was the non-com lep (would make sense why he gave up on the game on that first night, who wants to be a non-com scum) since they knew that both were innocent despite the fact that most of the town believed that it was an either, or scenario.


JB ---> O3T This is the strongest evidence for JB being either innocent or at the least the non-com lep since he was the first onto O3T and was so diligent about it that he actually turned me onto a vote on O3T by questioning my reasoning repeatedly since my initial reaction was that (and get this) IT WAS JUST A TINY SLIP THAT COULD BE EASILY EXPLAINED. Keep in mind folks this was THE ONE decent vote we've made this game.


Go back and look for yourself who was supporting the lynches of innocents and who was supporting the lynches of scum. And since I know that I was hesitant to put my vote on O3T I'll save you the looking and tell you right now. Like I said earlier, if you don't know who to lynch lynch me, it will be illuminating. I also voted for LG, and frankly was certain that because of how aggressive and vocal she was being she was scum. Frankly, if you look at the two meaningfull posts I've made you can see why I'm after Wiz, first, It was wrong of me to ignore a slip, since a slip is the only thing that has gotten us a clean kill now I'm going to look for more slips. Second, I had been more or less quiet and was watching and letting things happen, I watched LG get very vocal and then get killed, the only regret was the person she was vocal against was also killed and wound up being innocent. So if you're wondering about the sudden change in Fozzy, its because I've seen the importance of both paying attention to tiny slips, and the importance of being openly vocal against who you think is the highest probability for being scum.

Or I'm (as Wiz posited) scum, and just now feeling confident and now I'm drawing as much attention to myself as possible and actively trying to get an innocent killed, because it'll totally work out for me if I'm this hard on Wiz and he turns out to be innocent. (<---- sarcasm)

Frankly the fact that Wiz is so confident that I'm scum and not voting for me is funny, I'd say whichever of us backs off has something to loose from being too overt, or worse actually being this outspoken and seeing the person you're after go down and be innocent. Wiz, if you started pushing for me you could get me, I'm noobish, overconfident, obnoxious, and (from your perspective) actively trying to kill an innocent or at least cast dispersion on them, why did you suddenly back off? Could it be that your scum buddies are telling you its a bad idea to go after me because even if you kill me it will only illuminate who you truly are?

Yet, here I am, harping on the same note I've been harping on this entire game day. I'm not possitive that Wiz is scum, but based on his slip and the following reaction I'm pretty sure he is. To the point that I'm willing to stick my neck out there and possible be lynched by my own team since I feel that if they kill me it will only verify what I'm saying and my goal is to see as many people go down vocally before we run out of enough voters to do anything.
its lg not lb. lg is lady g. lb is lab rat. lab rat is the mod and lady g was in the game. did yall get it confused in the scum den?
 
I'm not you AAF but feel free to vote me down based on your personal experience and your belief that I will replicate exactly your actions. Why are we pushing to Lynch the one person the the town who actually discovered and pushed for the lynching of a Lep? anybody? please? are me and JB the only innocents left? We're going to side up to the people who voted down LG?

Honestly the best thing for the town is to lynch me...please, if you're right and I'm scum everything will become clear, but what if I'm innocent guys? please lynch me so you all can know for sure, if JB and I are on a team and JB is giving me orders then he's obviously not feeling confident enough to act on his own, kill his puppet!
 
its lg not lb. lg is lady g. lb is lab rat. lab rat is the mod and lady g was in the game. did yall get it confused in the scum den?

If i was in the scum den don't you think they would have caught and corrected that? Thankyou for pointing that out though, I'm very dyslexic and letters are very difficult for me, I certainly meant LG since LB isn't even a part of the game and LG and LB are painfully close and difficult to separate in my mind.
 
its lg not lb. lg is lady g. lb is lab rat. lab rat is the mod and lady g was in the game. did yall get it confused in the scum den?


Furthermore, this has nothing to do with my post, how about you assume that I meant LG and not LB since they are close and LB isn't in the game, then go back and read what I wrote for content instead of trying to disprove it because I made a small and understandable mistake in exchanging G for B
 
Furthermore, this has nothing to do with my post, how about you assume that I meant LG and not LB since they are close and LB isn't in the game, then go back and read what I wrote for content instead of trying to disprove it because I made a small and understandable mistake in exchanging G for B
well you're the english professor
 
At this point I'm not sure what to think of either Zaffy or JB, I do strongly believe that Wiz is scum, especially after his response to me. To see him lining up with zaffy does cast some dispersion on him from my perspective since when I was setting up to question Wiz I was wondering who Wiz would align with, Zaffy or JB since they both seemed innocent to me frankly. Like the others I do believe that tonight will really flesh out for us how this game is going to go. I honestly hope I get killed some way or another tonight since I'm not great at this game but have been vocal, I think I'd be of most use to the team dead and verified. So if you're on the fence about me lynch me, it will be educational. I've been quiet to a certain extent in this game because it is very hard to truly identify scum and I haven't wanted to be a further detriment to the team by drawing attention to irrelevant players. At this point though since I feel like I've found somebody to chase I'm going to focus on them.

Short list

Wiz gets my vote today

JB- pretty sure he's clean, for the most part has said thing's I agree with, could also be intentionally making me feel secure, especially if he's close to Wiz, siding up with me would but comfortable distance between them especially since Wiz is at a low risk of being lynched due to my commentary.
Zaffy - certainly somebody I wanted to watch when I started poking at Wiz, and although Zaffy himself has played very cleanly since then Wiz has sidled up to him, so more watching is certainly necessary.
AAF - somebody who doesn't want to deal with english language complexities and logically fallacies in a game that is all about reasoning out bad guys in written word based soley on what they've said...what ARE you voting on then? who makes you angry?...maybe my earlier statements about his innocence are misled, still low on my priority list though.
HI IQ - I'm fairly certain IQ is clean, I just am.
Driver - As stated before, driver is too overtly douchie to be scum, Yes he hasn't been a positive influence on the team and maybe he would be worth more to us as the verified dead, but I believe he is innocent.
Fozzy - I know what I am and like Driver may be worth more to the team dead.


Obviously I'm fairly certain Wiz is scum, nobody who is alive has acted more like it throughout the game, and yes, what i caught was a minor thing early in the game, but isn't that the best place to look? and what better slip than that "we" comment, I like to think that at least Freud would agree with me. If you're not certain who to lynch please lynch either Wiz or me, one of us have to be evil, who knows, maybe this is LG and Kash all over again and JB and Zaffy are sitting in the scum den rofling as I do their work for them.

Zaffy, I've been reading through your posts and almost said last night, please don't forget the implications of me being innocent, so I'm certainly trying not to forget to view everybody in both lights. Now I am a trusting person and frankly Zaffy I'd like to view you as innocent, and will certainly be looking closely at all of your posts, both for valid logical content and direction in suspicion. I don't really think you're at risk of being lynched tonight, and so frankly I'd like to let tonight's vote be added to my tools of investigation before I really try to make a judgement on you that I can act on. Both you and JB I just don't really have enough to go on to really tie myself to the wagon.
Hence I've been so hard after Wiz, if you really look at everybody, in my opinion, he just flat sticks out in a negative light. Who else in this game has been directly aggressive in response to inquiry? What innocent would want to quench the attitude of earnest investigation? Furthermore, I do think the use of ad hominem is incriminating, if Wiz had had logical reasons for typing what he did (and it was really just a slip) I feel that they would have been stated, for instance, JB, when I contradicted myself in that earlier post I immediately said "oh oops, I'd dealt with you in my mind and had a list of every player's name in front of me and just lumped you in with two other people who really were quite different." I only spoke of what I'd done and the implications therein, at no point did I say JB was misled or confused, he wasn't, I had made an error and he picked up on it, henceforth, as a player who wouldn't mind dying if it helped the village to see the truth in what I'm saying my goal is to increase the communal understanding, not attack JB for pointing out something valid. While Wiz did say that he meant "we" as the village it was after stating that I would know that if I wasn't a noob (ad hominem) and it wasn't until a couple posts later that he say's "I'm sorry I didn't write well enough for muster in an English class but that's what I meant" (author's paraphrase). If he was innocent I would have expected that first reply to have read "oh wow, you're right lol, I totally did call myself scum didn't I, well lol, I'm not, because ______(voting)_____(I was saying not to kill LG)_______(I was the first one onto O3T)_____(whatever)_______and I'm worried that you're missing ____(JB)____(zaffy)____(AAF)____ because they said _______________". What I'm getting at isn't so much what Wiz said early on, it was MILDLY incriminating but largely explainable, what I'm on Wiz about was that, efforts to explain it logically came AFTER trying to attack the validity of my argument based on the time I've spent in the game, which YES IS NOT AS MUCH AS SOME OF YOU, but has no actual bearing on the grammatical content of what Wiz said or the validity or bearing on the game therein.

A lot of words that say nothing.

I have asked you to present your case and again you have failed to do so. You have no case against me and are now just muddying up the thread with long posts hoping to convince the town there is a case hidden amongst all those words. I think you would have done better this game taking direction from Kermit than JB.
 
Current vote count:
Hi Iq (0) - AAF (#441)
Wiz (1) - Fozzy (#464)
Driver (1) - Hi Iq (#466)
JB (3) - Zaffy (#475), Wiz (#484), AAF (#500)
Zaffy (1) - JB (#478)

No vote: Driver

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