Mafia 104 - Dawg the Bounty Hunter - The Play

It's not always about the votes, this game is more dynamic than that. Are you suggesting that having a single post that shows the summary of N1 and N2 is a smoke screen and I shouldn't be trusted for doing it?

Did I say that? No, that's not what I'm saying at all. In fact, I think I said what I meant pretty clearly. Go back and read the post again. Slowly if you have to.

All I said was that IMO, looking at the vote counts (either together or separately) will get us basically nowhere.
 
Did I say that? No, that's not what I'm saying at all. In fact, I think I said what I meant pretty clearly. Go back and read the post again. Slowly if you have to.

All I said was that IMO, looking at the vote counts (either together or separately) will get us basically nowhere.

You didn't say it, you're smart enough not to say such a crazy thing. However, the tone of your post suggested it.
 
You didn't say it, you're smart enough not to say such a crazy thing. However, the tone of your post suggested it.

Really? The "tone" of my post (to you) depends totally on how you read it. It has nothing to do with how I wrote it. As a matter of fact, I wrote it very matter of factly.

Are you going to keep up this particular tangent of questioning or start looking for suspects?
 
JB, I'm curious as to why you think it's such a dead end to look at the votes...

Just the way I see it. Take it for what you will.
 
Well now... I reread the game with the current known folks in min, but the only thing I can think of that's changed from my point of view is that Neph was sincere... an that doesn't guarantee correctness. DD being a Towny PR mean that she was honest on her thoughts about me and not trying to get a reaction. I didn't suspect her at all anyway (though I did inquire an think about what would be if she was evil). I still think that Rich's Vote/Post comment was a slip up when working with Bally, but I'm also thinking that Dun has been completely useless so far, and that he changed his mind about his actions way to quickly. I think he may have been advised to do so by the scum team (making him scum).

Just putting those thoughts out there. Also, I think that Kashta is playing an abnormal game, as she has targeted two people who are liable to crack already, and has been short tempered (or I think she has) since the game started.

I'm a mind reader, didn't you know? But what I meant by 'her thoughts about me' was that she wasn't just trying to get me to go wild defensive. Which in turn means that she really did mean what she said.

Please quote a post where she says she doesn't suspect me... from what I recall, I was far from cleared in her books. In fact, I believe she voted me day one, though I wasn't relevant to her day two I doubt her thoughts changed much.

FF, I'm not trying to pick on you but feel this should be said.

Whether it's me, DD, or someone else... vets are going make observations about you or ask you game-related questions. (That applies to you and other players with whom you identify closely on personal basis as well... like pir, bally, and so on.) This does not mean they are out to "get you," either for game reasons or personal ones.

In several of your posts, you are coming off as paranoid and a tad sensitive to posts made by others (mine included) even when they just mention your name. When any player demonstrates defensiveness in the game, it's gonna draw suspicion their way. And if you are innocent and you react defensively, like you're holding a grudge from outside the game, or like you have a chip on your shoulder... it's going to be misinterpreted in a suspicious way. And that will hurt the town.

I realize I tend to come on strong and yesterday my posts were probably too flippant for any mafia game. If that upset you, I am truly sorry. I have very little time to play mafia at all and even when I am at the site, I cannot immerse myself in this thread long enough to even review the posts I want to look at much less worry about how I phrase something or wonder if it might hurt someone's feelings from a personal standpoint. It's going to be that way for the whole game. A lot of my posts are going to just be quick one-liners I post in a hurry while I am also doing other things not related to this game.

As for seeming short-tempered to you, let me assure that I'm not angry or upset about anything or anyone. And I really mean that. At the same time, I am stressed trying to keep up with everything all at once. I also admit I'm fed up with some of the drama that happens game after game. But I also don't feel I have to hide this or pretend everything is just dandy when it isn't.

Mafia is rough game to play for a lot of people. Some posts that seem harsh may just be a reflection of the poster's personality or even a tactic to gauge the response it draws (sometimes from other players who are not even the one addressed in that post). When you see this from anyone, just remain calm and respond with composure. If you suspect there might be an underlying motive behind it... that's great. Pay attention to it because there might be. But don't automatically assume that must be. And don't base all your judgments on that single factor because this could distort your view of the game and our view of your role in it.
 
Crapcicles! Just got caught up in the game after getting home. Two more innocents down. The lynch only had 3 votes? holy crap Batman! We are spreading ourselves way to thin on the votes. No wonder the scum don't have to move around to lynch innocents. We are doing it for them. The only good thing is that from here on out, they don't automatically increase their number with the hit. Now it is 50/50 turn/kill. But we still lose another innocent with every hit.

I have had too long a day to dig tonight. I am working tomorrow but will be at the office "on call" hopefully I will have some time to go back through and find something to kick at to find scum.

Just a thought, Wizard, on seeing this post again. I wonder if it concerned you that scum votes were spread out too much or didn't blend in very well. And, in light of the double vote from Bally, there stood a good chance we'd be able to narrow down at least one scum player today from among very few names, had that extra vote changed the lynch result or forced a tie.

I have to post this and will probably get slammed for it but, all we really know from tonight is that the doubled vote did not affect the results of the lynch. Without knowing Bally's alignment we can't even analyze the vote count as we are spread so thin.

The only thing we can know for certain is who did not get the doubled vote by looking at those who were on the people with two votes.

There is a way that we might be able to make a little more use of tonight's vote count. It is risky and would basically cost us an entire game day though.

Here again, you mention the votes were spread thin which makes this more compelling. I imagine someone scummy must have felt quite vulnerable at the time despite the fact that Bally habitually UDs from both sides.

The alternative to spreading out our votes would be to pile votes on to just a few names. And we already know that just makes it easier for scum to hide/blend in. So I wonder why you seem concerned about votes being spread out like they were.
 
You don't honestly think any Mod, after about game 30, really uses completely random assignments do you..just curious and probably outside the scope of this game...

No I don't. I already admitted I'd be hard pressed not to tweak a random assortment of roles myself if an unreliable player landed a crucial role and I wondered which way Dawg might respond. That's also why I didn't post a Pir vote right away when I started first typing it and went with a random vote elsewhere instead.

The problem is I also can't see playing any game adequately if we assume all the critical roles went to good players only.... leaving the rest to fill in all the regular townie spots. Although that's also a possibility, I'm sure.
 
I'll have to leave again... back soon.
 
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