Mafia 105: Finding Bigfoot The Game!

[jpappy789]

Hippies - You wish to stop the town and Big Foot Hunters from finding and exploiting cute fuzzy animals. You will do what ever it takes to save Sasquatch. You know the identity of Sasquatch. You may privately communicate with the other Hippies.

Reading the rules is helpful...

 

[jpappy789]

Catching up but want to post as I go along.




So you were going to send a possible innocent to the lynching because of his avatar? What about D made you think she wasn't vote worthy? She also had 1 vote and without knowing her seemed more scummy.





Or if he is scum the hunters will know.Is that what you're more worried about?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Neph was scum then it would be possible that a non-communicating innocent could get the double vote/invest. The win conditions lists it as "The Town & The Bigfoot Hunters" so I don't think it would automatically go to the hunters.

 

[IceH2O]

Don't get me wrong, I am still happy about last night's events, but the thing is, the town didn't make it a good nightfall. The one we should thank is bigfoot. :grinyes:

First of all, I am happy that Rich is gone. I just didn't like it how Rich voted me, and it then was killed by Bigfoot. It could have been a frame. (i.e. "Rich voted Pir and then Rich got killed by bigfoot, so Pir must be Bigfoot.") Not too likely, but hey, I've seen longer stretches.

I doubt anyone thought was Rich voted Pir and is now dead so Pir must be Bigfoot. I also doubt anyone would pile on DD to save you.She made herself look scummy to those people.

Yea but if i look suspicious in games when in innocent sont you think you should look for that screams scum instead of jumping on me?


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LOL it never works that way though, just you asking that question raises all sorts of red flags.

Something is bothering me about your Neph shouldn't of UDed post, You thought he was dead, he thought he was dead. Were you mad that you thought the team was short another player after losing Rich? Now you 2 are somewhat playing off one another, it could be construed as distancing.

So you're trying to imply that bigfoot set you up? That's a rather improbable scenario given how they have no idea if you are on their side or not. In fact, the only way bigfoot can play their role right now is by taking shots in the dark and hoping the odds do work in their favor. To suggest there was any strategic foresight in their hit choice is just incorrect.



Yeah and there were a good 5 votes or so that could have been placed anywhere. And I don't think anyone could argue that what DD posted didn't at least look suspicious, even though some chose not to vote there. In addition, very rarely does anyone, when scum, decide to all pile on the same person (especially so early) just to make another look bad. If you're innocent then why wouldn't they just let you go? It's just a WIFOM scenario that doesn't seem to be anything but a big coincidence.

The fact that you are just "putting it out there" is what concerns me. You have not one, but two scenarios that all revolve around you being framed which is a subtle way of basically saying "I'm innocent."

The only reason I could see for Bigfoot to set up Pir is if they don't like him and want him out of the game.

When I talk about the votes on DD, I mean this: If the lead vote was on bigfoot, they could shift the vote to keep it off of bigfoot. That sort of happened to me, and it sort of looked like I was being made to look like bigfoot whose hippies had just saved his furry behind. Unlikely, but again, not impossible.

That scenario would end up outing the hippies and you in the process. They wouldn't take the chance.



I guess only 4 or 5 of us are actually playing, that was the quietest after night fall ever, thanks for reminding me why I stopped playing.

 

[IceH2O]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Neph was scum then it would be possible that a non-communicating innocent could get the double vote/invest. The win conditions lists it as "The Town & The Bigfoot Hunters" so I don't think it would automatically go to the hunters.

Yeah you're right. I was thinking teams as in PR teams.

 

[IceH2O]

Nope. Is it what you were woried about?


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At least make sense when making a case. Why would I be worried? What actions show I'm worried? I explained better in a post further down what I think about you and Neph at the moment.


My sons getting back on,I'll be back after he hits the bed with a vote. Hope more people show up and more info comes out but you can tell which way I'm leaning at the moment.

 

[Piranha86]

Pir I thought no one knew Bigfoot's identity and Bigfoot wasn't communicating with anyone. Doesn't that make it impossible for the set-up scenario you described to occur?

Hippies - You wish to stop the town and Big Foot Hunters from finding and exploiting cute fuzzy animals. You will do what ever it takes to save Sasquatch. You know the identity of Sasquatch. You may privately communicate with the other Hippies.

Bigfoot's trying to pick innocents to kill. Pretty hard to make that decision when they have no idea who is who and EVERYONE in the game is trying to play like an innocent. Why you and not someone else? To suggest that they are setting anyone up is pure speculation.

Your conspiracy about the hippies trying to frame you as bigfoot would have much more meat to it had DD not come out on her own accord and placed one of the weirdest votes I've ever seen.

I understand that it is unlikely. And I understand DD had votes on her for a solid reason.

 

[allaboutfish]

I doubt anyone thought was Rich voted Pir and is now dead so Pir must be Bigfoot. I also doubt anyone would pile on DD to save you.She made herself look scummy to those people.



LOL it never works that way though, just you asking that question raises all sorts of red flags.

Something is bothering me about your Neph shouldn't of UDed post, You thought he was dead, he thought he was dead. Were you mad that you thought the team was short another player after losing Rich? Now you 2 are somewhat playing off one another, it could be construed as distancing.




The only reason I could see for Bigfoot to set up Pir is if they don't like him and want him out of the game.



That scenario would end up outing the hippies and you in the process. They wouldn't take the chance.



I guess only 4 or 5 of us are actually playing, that was the quietest after night fall ever, thanks for reminding me why I stopped playing.

No i knew he was in the game. I read the rules, read the nightfall events, and read the current player list.


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[Piranha86]

1.)I doubt anyone thought was Rich voted Pir and is now dead so Pir must be Bigfoot. I also doubt anyone would pile on DD to save you.She made herself look scummy to those people.

2.)The only reason I could see for Bigfoot to set up Pir is if they don't like him and want him out of the game.

3.)That scenario would end up outing the hippies and you in the process. They wouldn't take the chance.

4.)I guess only 4 or 5 of us are actually playing, that was the quietest after night fall ever, thanks for reminding me why I stopped playing.

1. Right, but it's possible. Doubtful and/or highly unlikely are two very different things when compared to possible.
2. It's not impossible.
3. How do you know for sure which chances they would and wouldn't take?
4. And this is pro-town in what way?

 

[jpappy789]

1. Right, but it's possible. Doubtful and/or highly unlikely are two very different things when compared to possible.
2. It's not impossible.
3. How do you know for sure which chances they would and wouldn't take?
4. And this is pro-town in what way?

1) Semantics.
2) Again, semantics. These scenarios are so unlikely that you bringing them up as a nonchalant way to defend yourself is what is bothersome because there was no reason for you to do so. You keep saying that you aren't throwing out accusations but the very process of bringing all this up casts a bad light on those involved. You know that.
3) You asked Ice so I wont respond since I've already made my point on that issue anyways.
4) Again asked to Ice, but I understand his frustrations. Right now very few people are participating.

 

[jbradt]

Sorry I haven't been around... things are a bit hectic. I just got home and got caught up on a first read through. I'm going to go back through a little more throroughly throughout the night, but Wanted to comment on a couple of things here:

wow what a crazy day 1. silly bigfoot, eating a hippy!!!
it sucks a bout DD tho, but hey thats part of the game i guess . i feel bad but not really a whole lot to go off of as of yet. im still puzzled about these logic loops. jpappy does make some interesting points tho. i would like to see more progress on gettin the giftshop ready

Something about this post really set off my spidey-senses. Something seems really put on. What specifically do you find interesting in the posts Jpappy made?

Catching up but want to post as I go along.




So you were going to send a possible innocent to the lynching because of his avatar? What about D made you think she wasn't vote worthy? She also had 1 vote and without knowing her seemed more scummy.





Or if he is scum the hunters will know.Is that what you're more worried about?

Ice, can you explain what you meant by the bolded line above?