Mafia 2014 #1-- FF1 Simple--The Play

So quiet and an hour before nightfall, which leads me to believe the scum like where this is going. Really want to see where everyone else votes to get a better feel for tonight, but I have a party to go in a few minutes and can't hang on here until 7. Rereading a bit more to see if anything really catches my interest

This is the post from UN.
 
I'm going to be frank, after a reread of day 1... I have no solid leads whatsoever. I do have to agree a bit with Wiz's comment (100) regarding UN and his vote, how he voted on someone who was in the lead while saying scum liked the way the game was going. My gut says that Pappy is hiding something, but I'm not entirely sure yet why my guy says that so I'll just keep rereading until I figure it out.

I'll check back on the thread again to see what others think and post.
 
FF;

How about you read Zaffy's post number 133 and comment on that for me.

Ok, sure.

This begs the question. Was the scum present at nightfall? Or were they confident? or inept?

We can certainly see who was around for nightfall. I'm not saying this means anything in itself.

posted within 15 mins of night:
Kashta
Pappy
Zaffy
Wiz
2Hobbies


>15 mins:
UN 30 mins
Ballyhoo 59 mins
FF 4 hours
DD 23 hours 31 minutes

If so than I would say (off the top of my head) that Pappy is scum, but that is off of a gut feeling I have regarding his gameplay so far. If they weren't here at nightfall than it would have had to be me, as Bally and UN were both around to see Kashta getting votes but I was long gone by then. In this case it could be anyone, since everyone here is an experienced player. We can certainly hope right? But who here would, at nightfall, have targeted Kashta? This is the one I think is least likely to be true.

I honestly don't see how his post was very helpful, if anything it seems more focused on muddying the waters than on giving any information - mostly because he didn't answer any of his own questions and only posted that he's "not saying this means anything in itself." in which case I must ask Zaffy... why didn't you add anything to this post so that it would mean something of it's own accord?
 
as of post 154, no Day Two votes cast.....
 
So if that post was the inconsistency (posted by UN at 5pm by the way) How do you explain Wiz's vote for DD at 5:29.

I don't think I can explain the wizards motives. I can't pretend to know what he was or wasn't thinking. For me it was the gut feeling that UN may have been inconsistent in his words vs his actions.
 
Well, before I go fire up the grill, I would like to throw a general question out to everyone.

I already know Zaffy's answer as it was stated in his vote post.

I would like input from everyone on the reason I gave for my vote on UN. Am I barking up the wrong tree or does he look scummy to anyone else?

I will check back in before retiring for the evening if anyone has questions for me to answer.

I think you voted UN because he stated that the scum must like where the vote was going, and then he hopped on the train, and also said that he would reread and come back with other thoughts, to which he didn't.
 
So if that post was the inconsistency (posted by UN at 5pm by the way) How do you explain Wiz's vote for DD at 5:29.
2H, I'm curious why you aren't taking into account the timing of the actual vote by UN. Like Zaffy said, I can't say for sure what Wiz was thinking...but UN's vote on DD (which is what Wiz considered to be "inconsistent" with the prior post of UN's) was literally sent 1 minute before Wiz posted his vote on DD. I'd say it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that Wiz didn't even see UN's vote when he originally voted as well.

Post #90 can't be inconsistent on its own. I think it was fairly obvious that Wiz thought the vote (post #94) is what was inconsistent with post #90, and that is why he voted.

UN stated he thought the scum liked where it was going. Said he didn't like how quiet it was so close to nightfall. UN has made a couple of comments here and there but hasn't kicked any bushes. Wants to see what others think but doesn't ask any questions.

The biggest thing is he thinks that the scum must like how it is going then votes for one of the only two people with votes on them.

Really? If you think the scum like how it is going you are going to vote their way?
 
Ok, sure.



If so than I would say (off the top of my head) that Pappy is scum, but that is off of a gut feeling I have regarding his gameplay so far. If they weren't here at nightfall than it would have had to be me, as Bally and UN were both around to see Kashta getting votes but I was long gone by then. In this case it could be anyone, since everyone here is an experienced player. We can certainly hope right? But who here would, at nightfall, have targeted Kashta? This is the one I think is least likely to be true.

I honestly don't see how his post was very helpful, if anything it seems more focused on muddying the waters than on giving any information - mostly because he didn't answer any of his own questions and only posted that he's "not saying this means anything in itself." in which case I must ask Zaffy... why didn't you add anything to this post so that it would mean something of it's own accord?

FF, I don't understand how you cannot see the inconsistencies here...how can you pretend to be answering Zaffy's questions (I say "pretend" because it seems like you are fishing by throwing my name out there based on this "gut feeling" you now have) and then turn around and try to criticize Zaffy for even asking the questions in the first place?

If you think Zaffy posing those questions is a waste of time and "muddying the waters" then why give credence to said questions by attempting to answer them?
 
Zaffy, I'm curious if you have any opinion regarding Wiz's comment way back about FF specifically picking you on D1 and the possible ramifications if you were innocent. You sort of brought it up in reference to 2H voting Kash because of it, and then I corrected you, but I'm wondering if you put any thought into Wiz's initial comment itself.

Zaffy, I think 2H is referring to this...



And Kash's followup, although she never addressed it directly...

Thanks pappy,
 
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