Newly setup 22 long planted concerns

Barber Mike, I'm so glad to hear the weird pressure thing has been resolved!! Just keep an eye on the color of the drop checker solution to make sure upping the bubbles per second isn't gassing the tank. Hopefully things will iron themselves out when you get a working bubble counter. If the solution turns yellow you know there's too much! You want it to go from blue to green. Keep an eye on it though, it does take a little while to really dial in.

This is my first real planted tank. I knew nothing about fish keeping until last October. Learned about cycling which at the time I felt so overwhelmed with just absorbing that knowledge alone!! Thinking back...now I know why my fish died back when I was 16 :rolleyes: Crammed 40 fish in a 10 gallon...no cycling, no dechlorinating...and the people at the pet store said nothing and gladly let me pay for the tank and fish and watched me walk away...grrr!

Anyways...cycled a 5 gallon successfully, added plants because I read it helped with water quality, a light, co2 cuz I read plants liked it, ferts...not knowing what to do with all of it. Added my betta. Grew everything but the plants! Was a pro at growing diatoms (later found out my tap has 7.8 ppm of silicates which were to blame), grew nice long lush strands of green hair algae, followed by cyano bacteria, followed by some weird black algae. Needless to say, I tore the tank down in March...a month after I started the one pictured :) BUT...I learned so much about lighting, co2, timers, ferts and of course very happy to report my betta is still alive and well!

I easily could've given up...and honestly I can see why people give up after the first try. I just so happened to be pretty stubborn which led me to read and read and read and read some more. I think it has paid off and I'm thrilled with how everything has turned out so far! So much so, not only do I plan on getting the original 5 gallon running again, I have picked up 2 more 10 gals, a 15, a 20 long, 3 33 longs and a 34 gal. 10 tanks...MTS for real! Oh, I can't forget to mention my husband now has an 11 gal cube in his office lol! MTS happened pretty quickly. What can I say, I caught the bug! What better way to add life to a home ;)

I would test your parameters once a week. I was all about it during the first week...saw the rainbow of colors on the api liquid kit and figured it was best to not waste anymore solution and tested once a week. I do keep a journal of everything, from tank size, filtration, light duration, substrate, plants, test results, ferts, water changes etc etc. This way I can keep track of everything I do and monitor. I plan to do this for the other 9 tanks. This way there will be no guessing when what tank got water changes, last ferted etc etc.

I can't wait to see the progress on your tank and future tanks! Maybe get the Mrs. her own to scape, learn, watch progress and pick her own fish! You know what they say...if you can't beat em, join em! :p
 
Barber Mike, I'm so glad to hear the weird pressure thing has been resolved!! Just keep an eye on the color of the drop checker solution to make sure upping the bubbles per second isn't gassing the tank. Hopefully things will iron themselves out when you get a working bubble counter. If the solution turns yellow you know there's too much! You want it to go from blue to green. Keep an eye on it though, it does take a little while to really dial in.

This is my first real planted tank. I knew nothing about fish keeping until last October. Learned about cycling which at the time I felt so overwhelmed with just absorbing that knowledge alone!! Thinking back...now I know why my fish died back when I was 16 :rolleyes: Crammed 40 fish in a 10 gallon...no cycling, no dechlorinating...and the people at the pet store said nothing and gladly let me pay for the tank and fish and watched me walk away...grrr!

Anyways...cycled a 5 gallon successfully, added plants because I read it helped with water quality, a light, co2 cuz I read plants liked it, ferts...not knowing what to do with all of it. Added my betta. Grew everything but the plants! Was a pro at growing diatoms (later found out my tap has 7.8 ppm of silicates which were to blame), grew nice long lush strands of green hair algae, followed by cyano bacteria, followed by some weird black algae. Needless to say, I tore the tank down in March...a month after I started the one pictured :) BUT...I learned so much about lighting, co2, timers, ferts and of course very happy to report my betta is still alive and well!

I easily could've given up...and honestly I can see why people give up after the first try. I just so happened to be pretty stubborn which led me to read and read and read and read some more. I think it has paid off and I'm thrilled with how everything has turned out so far! So much so, not only do I plan on getting the original 5 gallon running again, I have picked up 2 more 10 gals, a 15, a 20 long, 3 33 longs and a 34 gal. 10 tanks...MTS for real! Oh, I can't forget to mention my husband now has an 11 gal cube in his office lol! MTS happened pretty quickly. What can I say, I caught the bug! What better way to add life to a home ;)

I would test your parameters once a week. I was all about it during the first week...saw the rainbow of colors on the api liquid kit and figured it was best to not waste anymore solution and tested once a week. I do keep a journal of everything, from tank size, filtration, light duration, substrate, plants, test results, ferts, water changes etc etc. This way I can keep track of everything I do and monitor. I plan to do this for the other 9 tanks. This way there will be no guessing when what tank got water changes, last ferted etc etc.

I can't wait to see the progress on your tank and future tanks! Maybe get the Mrs. her own to scape, learn, watch progress and pick her own fish! You know what they say...if you can't beat em, join em! :p

Wow you learned quite a bit in a short time! And your 10 gallon looks amazing for it only being your first! And tell me about it, as soon as I got this tank I was all in again. I don't think you could only be "a little" into this hobby haha. It's probably why I took a few years off thinking about it.

So, you were right. Towards the end of my injection schedule my drop checker was more yellow than it should be. And just when I thought I hit pay dirt! More importantly, the CO2 pressure valve behaved accordingly for the rest of the day. I'm planning on just leaving it as is and seeing what the DC reads tomorrow. If I do need to drop the levels, since I can't dial back the needle valve without the flux in psi, I'll try to slightly dial back the psi to maybe 35 and leave the bubble counter at 4-5bps. My only drawback on this is the GLA inline diffuser I'm using recommends the psi be at 40. But, who knows if the valve will cooperate if I drop 5 psi to begin with. Too much depends on tomorrow. That being said, good night. Will update in the near future.
 
Wow you learned quite a bit in a short time! And your 10 gallon looks amazing for it only being your first! And tell me about it, as soon as I got this tank I was all in again. I don't think you could only be "a little" into this hobby haha. It's probably why I took a few years off thinking about it.

So, you were right. Towards the end of my injection schedule my drop checker was more yellow than it should be. And just when I thought I hit pay dirt! More importantly, the CO2 pressure valve behaved accordingly for the rest of the day. I'm planning on just leaving it as is and seeing what the DC reads tomorrow. If I do need to drop the levels, since I can't dial back the needle valve without the flux in psi, I'll try to slightly dial back the psi to maybe 35 and leave the bubble counter at 4-5bps. My only drawback on this is the GLA inline diffuser I'm using recommends the psi be at 40. But, who knows if the valve will cooperate if I drop 5 psi to begin with. Too much depends on tomorrow. That being said, good night. Will update in the near future.
Good morning!

Ok, so I've been brainstorming with hubby about all of the issues you're having and had him watch the video you posted. We just want to make sure you understand the difference between the "working pressure" psi and the needle valve pressure. If your inline diffuser says 40 psi...that's the working pressure. Then use the needle valve to set your desired bubbles per second (it does take a little bit for the bbs to stabilize).

That said, we know you have a dual gauge regulator...not to be confused with a dual stage regulator. Dual stage are stupid expensive. When you dial up or down the working pressure, make sure you turn your regulator off (solenoid) and then close your needle valve before doing so. THEN dial in your 35 or 40 psi. (*If you're seeing the fluctuations like in the video you linked, you have a faulty unit*.) THEN turn your regulator/solenoid back on, THEN open your needle valve and set it to the desired bubbles per second.

The other thing to be mindful of (bonus info), is how much co2 you have left in your tank. So, as you use your supply, lowering the amount your have in your tank, you will have to adjust your working pressure accordingly. Failing to adjust the pressure with a lowered internal pressure will eventually cause the co2 canister to "dump" all of the remaining co2 it has left. You can imagine that wouldn't be an ideal situation for the fishes :(
 
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Afterthought.. is it possible to crank my psi up to say 50 and just set the bubble counter very low to achieve the proper color on the drop checker? Trying to figure what I’ll do if things aren’t “green” today.
 
Afterthought.. is it possible to crank my psi up to say 50 and just set the bubble counter very low to achieve the proper color on the drop checker? Trying to figure what I’ll do if things aren’t “green” today.
My Aquatek mini paintball regulator is at 50 by default. It's factory set that way and I have no option to adjust. The only thing I can adjust is the needle valve.

Try what I suggested first. Turn the regulator off, close the needle valve. Set your working pressure to the companies suggested psi. If you're seeing the gauge jump as per your video, you know you have a faulty unit. If all is well, turn your regulator back on, then set your bubble per second to the 1-2 you had originally.

Working pressure and needle valve are completely separate of each other. The only way you control how much co2 goes into the aquarium is through the needle valve.
 
Good morning!

Ok, so I've been brainstorming with hubby about all of the issues you're having and had him watch the video you posted. We just want to make sure you understand the difference between the "working pressure" psi and the needle valve pressure. If your inline diffuser says 40 psi...that's the working pressure. Then use the needle valve to set your desired bubbles per second (it does take a little bit for the bbs to stabilize).

That said, we know you have a dual gauge regulator...not to be confused with a dual stage regulator. Dual stage are stupid expensive. When you dial up or down the working pressure, make sure you turn your regulator off (solenoid) and then close your needle valve before doing so. THEN dial in your 35 or 40 psi. (*If you're seeing the fluctuations like in the video you linked, you have a faulty unit*.) THEN turn your regulator/solenoid back on, THEN open your needle valve and set it to the desired bubbles per second.

The other thing to be mindful of (bonus info), is how much co2 you have left in your tank. So, as you use your supply, lowering the amount your have in your tank, you will have to adjust your working pressure accordingly. Failing to adjust the pressure with a lowered internal pressure will eventually cause the co2 canister to "dump" all of the remaining co2 it has left. You can imagine that wouldn't be an ideal situation for the fishes :(

Haha I’m so sorry I posted and completely missed this!! That’s what I get for trying to post between haircuts!

Thank you so much, to your husband too, for using your time to try and troubleshoot my CO2 woes. I’m excited to test all that you suggested out and hopefully achieve what I need to!!

Thanks again Jen,
Will report back in the near future
 
Haha I’m so sorry I posted and completely missed this!! That’s what I get for trying to post between haircuts!

Thank you so much, to your husband too, for using your time to try and troubleshoot my CO2 woes. I’m excited to test all that you suggested out and hopefully achieve what I need to!!

Thanks again Jen,
Will report back in the near future
Mike, I'm more than happy and willing to share what I know, what I have learned, and what I have experienced. Remember, I knew NOTHING about ANYTHING related to fish keeping, let alone high tech planted tanks. I know the struggle of trying to find legit info on ANY of these topics. You find one person saying one thing, another says complete opposite. I have found myself more confused at times after having done some research than before I started researching. It can be frustrating at times. But, as I've said before...I'm stubborn and keep searching, using logic at times to pick apart some peoples "ways of doing things" (which may work for them, not for me) and of course...trial and error (which is why I keep a fish journal). I tried this, this happened. I tried that, that terrible thing happened. I know to not to "that" again...etc etc

It's a fun and challenging hobby and like I said, I'm more than willing to share what I know. I won't advise anything I have no knowledge or experience with. Seen way too much of that online LOL!

Hubby says you're welcome!!

Oh, and I need a haircut Mike!
 
Hi guys, hope you’re doing well.

So I got home late last night and started fiddling with my regulator. (Would have posted before bed but I was playing with it until 1:30am :mad:). I was able to get the fluctuation level to only bounce back and forth between 5psi instead of 10psi. So, a little improvement - but I’m still dissatisfied with the Aquatek product(s). I tried all of your husband and your suggestions and it did decrease the swing range by half. So thanks guys I do appreciate all the help.

I also did a good deal of research. Mostly to find the product is bottom of the line for anyone serious about dosing CO2; and I’m certainly not the only one with this exact same issue with this regulator. Most say the 5-10psi constant fluctuation doesn’t affect the aquarium /has good distribution of CO2 and good growth / has no affect on fish. One poster even said replacing the bubble counter with a better quality fixed his issue completely. He blamed it on the cheap built in check valve. So that is my last hope on a stable working pressure out of this unit. My second and hopefully working new bc comes Friday.

I wrote Aquatek and it was sugested I up the working pressure to 50psi. Same result. The only way I can maintain a steady working pressure is to up my bubble count to 5-6bps but that makes my drop checker solution look like lemonade in a few hours. They offered for me to return it and I might. Was just browsing, and the C02art regulators look more reliable and still won’t damage the wallet as much as some other popular brands I was trying to avoid while deciding on my Aquatek rig in the first place.

That’s where it stands now - the regulator turned on at 7am this morning at 35-40psi and at 1-2bps. Wifey should be home before 4 and I’m waiting to hear what color the drop checker is reporting. If it’s green I might just rock with it for now.

And come on to CT and I’ll give you a haircut on the house for all of your help:cool:
 
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My friend bought a co2art regulator. It has never worked right, although they, like Aquatek for you, offered to replace it after trouble shooting. I'm not sure if she did. She bought in part because it "looked cool".

I belong to a plant club & many "old timers" scoff on all single stage regs. My husband is a chemist & scoffs on all "non-pro" equipment (= big, big bucks) & refuses to help in most ways. I refuse to pay the big bucks for "good system" without at least trying the 1s I was given...but I think my downfall will be ferts & not a co2 system...we all have our limits...

Jennifer, I applaud your big plunge into our hobby & you success!
 
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So another quick update. My wife snapped a pic of the drop checker a half hour before the CO2 shut off for the day and the solution was perfectly green!! So, I guess I shouldn't be too worried about the steady 5psi flux on my working pressure. However, I did notice my CO2 tank pressure is only 600psi? I had been reading it should be higher like 8-900psi? I put soapy water in a spray bottle and tested every connection, including the connection between the tank and regulator and found it all to be air-tight. Either this regulator is completely shot or I was sold less than a full tank of gas. Brutal.

Also, funny side note on the CO2art regulator... I tried to see shipping costs from the UK and noticed the regulator I would want was listed as pre-order and would take 1-5 weeks from warehouse to my house. My friend's sister lives in the UK so I went to the website's store locator to see if there was a store front she might be able to visit for me to buy a regulator and ship it to me - when I realized there is a single solitary US store listed that deals CO2art products and it is only45 minutes from my house!! I think the fish gods are telling me something lol.
 
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