Let’s Talk Fertilizer & Schedule ( again)
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It's hard to take good pics, it's very hard to take good close up pics. What some of our members post is just amazing. I can't see anything wrong from those pictures, but I don't doubt you can see some white spots on them.
Thanks, it really was only a few on his head and a couple on the fin. Most of which are gone now, I am only seeing one on the head and one on the fin this morning ?. & everyone seems well. As per the bottle instructions I am going to dose one more time tomorrow at half dose and 48 hours later to WC ( I am hoping I caught it at the right stage ?? & won’t need any more ) . At that point my crypts should be here and I will be just about done with planting and adding! I am feeling much better moving forward. Finally feeling like I can set my routine and just do maintenance.
I did order this api test that wasn’t included in my kit. That will give me more information.
I couldn't see any spots, with or without my glasses, lol. I also think if you've dosed with something you should continue it for a full treatment. Have you seen ich before? I'm guessing yes since you had a med. It looks like salt sprinkled on fish, maybe even just a very few specks. Flat or raised, it's very hard to see that. It does fall off the fish into the substrate then becomes free swimming to reinfect the fish, usually worse the 2nd time.
I've never used that product, it has a few different ingredients. Salt can be effective, as can old school dyes (Blue or green). Nitrofurazone I don't think I've used, it's kinda a antibiotic (both gram neg & pos.) & kinda an anti-microbial. My personal opinion is it doesn't treat all of those very well or that's pretty much all we'd need for many fish diseases...My usual ich tx is malachite green or even older methylene blue (yep, I'm old). Salt is a separate treatment. All 3 together seems a bit overkill. I'd pick either dye or salt & continue it for 10-14 days. But you have the API...
But no matter NONE will kill it in 3-5 days, You need to treat for at least 7 days after all signs are gone. Not doing this is why some people see "chronic" ich in their tanks, they just didn't really kill it all.
Vacuuming & water changes before redosing helps reduce the amount but is not a treatment. I have a friend that insists if she feeds well the fish "get over it", no, no NO! But it has a habit of coming back if she skips water changes or the fish are "stressed". This is total BS, but she's a bit of a "magical" thinker, sheesh, she does kind of know better...
I've never used that product, it has a few different ingredients. Salt can be effective, as can old school dyes (Blue or green). Nitrofurazone I don't think I've used, it's kinda a antibiotic (both gram neg & pos.) & kinda an anti-microbial. My personal opinion is it doesn't treat all of those very well or that's pretty much all we'd need for many fish diseases...My usual ich tx is malachite green or even older methylene blue (yep, I'm old). Salt is a separate treatment. All 3 together seems a bit overkill. I'd pick either dye or salt & continue it for 10-14 days. But you have the API...
But no matter NONE will kill it in 3-5 days, You need to treat for at least 7 days after all signs are gone. Not doing this is why some people see "chronic" ich in their tanks, they just didn't really kill it all.
Vacuuming & water changes before redosing helps reduce the amount but is not a treatment. I have a friend that insists if she feeds well the fish "get over it", no, no NO! But it has a habit of coming back if she skips water changes or the fish are "stressed". This is total BS, but she's a bit of a "magical" thinker, sheesh, she does kind of know better...
Thanks so much, I definitely noticed the few white specs that were not there initially. Because they were raised and on his little cute face it made it pretty easy to recognize. The api has got me through Ich in my prior tank. And it was a significant outbreak and I lost a bunch of my stock that time. Everyone looks really good today. I did notice some flashing from the original peacock gudgeon last week once or twice last week and I was watching but never seen anything else. It’s absolutely possible it was in the gills and not visible. I had been slowly adding fish & plants over the last month so I could have brought it in from multiple places. The super ich cure said dose 1st time and again in 48hrs. Then 48 hours later do pwc this process may need to be repeated.
tomorrow morning is my redose day. I don’t Have any other medicines I am going to do some research and decide what I should have in my arsenal to replace this product. But typically I don’t have to use it in the past. Once I am not adding and introducing stuff I am usually able to keep it in check with maintenance and testing. I haven’t had to deal with many fish problems that needed dosing with the exception of ick. And I use to swear petCo purchases automatically came with an ich guarantee lol
Again, despite what the API Ick Cure instructions may have said, go 7-10 days AFTER all signs are gone. Spots or flashing. It may have been your PGs or rams but it doesn't matter right now. Finish the treatment or it might come back like gangbusters.
Sorry, I sometimes need to repeat, not just for you but for others reading along...you have added lots of fish & plants lately. Good luck! Let us know how it's going.
I still can't wait for the crypt lucens in there...
I still can't wait for the crypt lucens in there...
No problem at all, Your absolutely right tho as far as how reinfections happen. And stopping when the symptoms stop & not taking into account the cycle of the parasite is often the mistake. It is huge misstep with us and our antibiotics so it absolutely makes sence here too. I was looking at my schedule and this is what I am thinking.
1st dose yesterday next dose tomorrow then Thursday plant crypts + pwc & 1st dose ( round 2) Saturday 2nd dose & Monday water change. all at half dose due to the Pygmy Corydoras.
my comprehensive dose will come after 2nd round of water change... thoughts?
Crypts came ! She had them quarantined so I went ahead and planted them when I dosed this morning.
