bn pleco may gey eaten, not sure if os go for plecs, i was thinkin more alnog the lines of a spiny monster pleco, they get about 8-10inches. and i forgot if it was male or female fire eels but one only gets like 16inches.
2 Silver Arowanas
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Actually you can have 2 arowanas in a 90 gal tank, as long its wide enough. If its at least minimum of 18" wide tank..its not a problem. I had 2 arowanas, silver and pearl in a 75 gal that was 4 inches shorter than a 90 gal, but same lenght and width.
Silver was 25" whilst the pearl was about 21" or 22". This is going back several years ago, and I have both of them for 3 years and both were doing fine and as a matter of fact they are still doing fine. I don't have them anymore since I moved I gave them away. The silver is now in a 90 gal tank at a friends house and has grown to about 28"...growth may have been stunted a bit, but fish is happy and healthy..no spinal curvature, bulging eyes or curled gills. Same for the pearl (australian) arowana, housed in a 75 gal tank, my old tank at my bro's house and has peaked at 24". May not be as big but both arowanas are still alive and healthy.
As long as you take the time and effort to maintain the tank...you should be okay. BTW, purchased both of them when they were about 2" big.
The pearl was the meaner of the two..used to chase the silver around, but as they grew bigger together they got along.
Sure, the bigger the tank the better..no doubt but if you can't afford it or have the space for it, you can get by with that 90 gal. If you are worried then just get one silver, personally I prefer the austrailian, its the closet to the golden and super reds.
As for me, I'm in the process of re-setting up a new tank, most likely a 125 gal that will house 2 -3 arowanas, possibly a teacup stingray too.
If you do decide to do it, make sure you got a really good filtration system. My old 75g had a wet/dry system that I made out of a spare 20g tank and kept my tank pristine.
Only reason I got into was when I visited Singapore, and a friend of a friend from there took us to the Dragon Fish Industries arowana farm. I swear if it wasn't illegal to have a Super Red arowana, I'd get 6 of them. Heh.
Anyways, while there we asked a lot of questions and these guys are the pros, they breed these babies and know them like the back of their own hand. They told us its pefectly alright to use a 75 gal or bigger tank to house an arowana, as long as its wide enough (min. 18" best 24"). They even stated that if you have a longer tank, 8ft in lengh won't make much of a difference, since they only get real big in the wild or in their farms, since they have huge ponds set up. But indoor captivity with the traditional tanks..not very likely, unless you have a huge custom made tanks like Aquariums do..sure it'll get big, but how many people have that?
If you are really into arowanas, I suggest taking a trip to Singapore. There are other arowana farms out there, and the super reds..omg...what's amazing the price of them out there...hmmm..if I can get my wife to go along with the idea of moving to singapore....lol
There are some web sites that have great info about arowanas, do a google search and you will find some.
Good luck.
Silver was 25" whilst the pearl was about 21" or 22". This is going back several years ago, and I have both of them for 3 years and both were doing fine and as a matter of fact they are still doing fine. I don't have them anymore since I moved I gave them away. The silver is now in a 90 gal tank at a friends house and has grown to about 28"...growth may have been stunted a bit, but fish is happy and healthy..no spinal curvature, bulging eyes or curled gills. Same for the pearl (australian) arowana, housed in a 75 gal tank, my old tank at my bro's house and has peaked at 24". May not be as big but both arowanas are still alive and healthy.
As long as you take the time and effort to maintain the tank...you should be okay. BTW, purchased both of them when they were about 2" big.
The pearl was the meaner of the two..used to chase the silver around, but as they grew bigger together they got along.
Sure, the bigger the tank the better..no doubt but if you can't afford it or have the space for it, you can get by with that 90 gal. If you are worried then just get one silver, personally I prefer the austrailian, its the closet to the golden and super reds.
As for me, I'm in the process of re-setting up a new tank, most likely a 125 gal that will house 2 -3 arowanas, possibly a teacup stingray too.
If you do decide to do it, make sure you got a really good filtration system. My old 75g had a wet/dry system that I made out of a spare 20g tank and kept my tank pristine.
Only reason I got into was when I visited Singapore, and a friend of a friend from there took us to the Dragon Fish Industries arowana farm. I swear if it wasn't illegal to have a Super Red arowana, I'd get 6 of them. Heh.
Anyways, while there we asked a lot of questions and these guys are the pros, they breed these babies and know them like the back of their own hand. They told us its pefectly alright to use a 75 gal or bigger tank to house an arowana, as long as its wide enough (min. 18" best 24"). They even stated that if you have a longer tank, 8ft in lengh won't make much of a difference, since they only get real big in the wild or in their farms, since they have huge ponds set up. But indoor captivity with the traditional tanks..not very likely, unless you have a huge custom made tanks like Aquariums do..sure it'll get big, but how many people have that?
If you are really into arowanas, I suggest taking a trip to Singapore. There are other arowana farms out there, and the super reds..omg...what's amazing the price of them out there...hmmm..if I can get my wife to go along with the idea of moving to singapore....lol
There are some web sites that have great info about arowanas, do a google search and you will find some.
Good luck.
Wow. I disagree 100% about any aro kept in a 75 or 90 for life. That's just torture.
Just because they live, doesn't mean that they're thriving, or even "happy".
I wont go any farther on that......I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that would be acceptable.
Just because they live, doesn't mean that they're thriving, or even "happy".
I wont go any farther on that......I'm still trying to wrap my head around how that would be acceptable.
Go to singapore and ask around. 265g tank or a 75 gal tank not much of a difference except maintenance.
Arowanas grow big yes its true, in the wild or a huge pond/lake..not in a tank.
If thats the case a lot of fishes should not be kept in tanks, nor reptiles, etc...
You are entitled to your opinion, but I'd rather have information from people that raise and breed arowanas for decades. Yes they are salesmen, its a business but these people are not just business people, they're arowana fanatics.
The whole time I was in singapore bugging these guys for info, not once have they tried to push a sale on me, aside from the fact that I was from US and can't have one anyway. But they gave me a lot of info and tips about caring for a silver , austrailan and even the black arownanas. So excuse me if I put stock into what I was told from experience people. As for the link of that photo of someone's arowana in a 265g tank, a big no-no on his/her part of having a driftwood in the tank, because arowanas can injure themselves on objects like that when feeding time comes. Another thing I picked up from these pros, when having arowanas irregardless of breed, keep the tank as simple as possible..no ornaments of any type, as to avoid any injuries.
But everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions.
Arowanas grow big yes its true, in the wild or a huge pond/lake..not in a tank.
If thats the case a lot of fishes should not be kept in tanks, nor reptiles, etc...
You are entitled to your opinion, but I'd rather have information from people that raise and breed arowanas for decades. Yes they are salesmen, its a business but these people are not just business people, they're arowana fanatics.
The whole time I was in singapore bugging these guys for info, not once have they tried to push a sale on me, aside from the fact that I was from US and can't have one anyway. But they gave me a lot of info and tips about caring for a silver , austrailan and even the black arownanas. So excuse me if I put stock into what I was told from experience people. As for the link of that photo of someone's arowana in a 265g tank, a big no-no on his/her part of having a driftwood in the tank, because arowanas can injure themselves on objects like that when feeding time comes. Another thing I picked up from these pros, when having arowanas irregardless of breed, keep the tank as simple as possible..no ornaments of any type, as to avoid any injuries.
But everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and opinions.
keeping an arowana in a small tank like a 75 or 90 can be done for a short period of time but once they start having problems turning round its just awfull.
i kept one of my asian in a 85g until it was around 12'' and upgraded my tank as i felt it was too crowded with the other fish.
as for keeping wood in a tank with aros yes they can knock scales off etc but my RTG is not jumpy and i have no qualms about keeping wood in with that, it can be a risk but thats fine by me.
a 28'' fish in an 18'' tank is just plain wrong imo.
i kept one of my asian in a 85g until it was around 12'' and upgraded my tank as i felt it was too crowded with the other fish.
as for keeping wood in a tank with aros yes they can knock scales off etc but my RTG is not jumpy and i have no qualms about keeping wood in with that, it can be a risk but thats fine by me.
a 28'' fish in an 18'' tank is just plain wrong imo.
Rallysman said:
Ditto to what Levi said. Think about why they don't achieve their full size in 75 gallon aquariums. It's not because they can't. It's because they don't live long enough too, and they die for a reason in these tanks. Yes, they can be maintained temporarily in a tank like that, but not for their life.
Think about the dimensions of a 75 or 90 gallon tank (48.5" long by 18" wide). and the 48" length that a silver can attain. Can anyone honestly believe that keeping one in that size tank is healthy for the fish? I think its rediculous.
It is a common practice to keep fish in overcrowded conditions in Thailand and Singapore and other countries where fish farming is such a big industry. Of course they're going to tell you that it is okay to crowd your fish. That is the culture in fish keeping there. From what I understand, arrowanas are believed to bring luck and so a lot of people aren't concerned about keeping them in what we consider to be a healthy manner.
How would you like to live in a closet where to turn around you had to contort yourself into strange shapes? That is what you do to a 24" fish in an 18" wide tank. Just because other people are doing something and say it's okay, it doesn't make it right.
But that's just what I believe about keeping fish.
How would you like to live in a closet where to turn around you had to contort yourself into strange shapes? That is what you do to a 24" fish in an 18" wide tank. Just because other people are doing something and say it's okay, it doesn't make it right.
But that's just what I believe about keeping fish.
