Okay. Well im shure someone knows on this forum. I have another kind that looks very similar in body style but is smaller and black with gray spots. I bought 4 "Ornate Loaches" at my LFS when I was starting this tank. They are in the hillstream family. Im just not shure the names of both different types. 1 of them was that guy in those top pics the brownish color. The other 3 are black with grays spots and have a more trangular tail. anyone know?