30 gallon x-tall viv (planning stages, some newb questions)

^^^that's the same garden sprayer i have too.^^^ i got it at lowes so my daughter could play with the "big kids". now i use it during/after tank maintenance to keep the moisture up.
 
This sounds like an interesting project. Subscribed!
 
Wow. That sprayer looks super handy. Might have to invest in one of those bad boys. Leaning more and more towards a humidifier for misting.

Was thinking about an easily hidden way to pump air up the front glass. Would a pvc pipe drilled like a canister filter spray bar and hooked to an air pump have any effect? I'm not sure if an air pump would produce enough pressure to output air evenly, but it seems like it'd be easier to hide than the computer fan circulator, who's thread on dendroboard I can't find at the moment.
 
Sounds like it's going to be a real nice setup! Better take some pics. :D
 
i don't think your everyday air pump would do the trick. i also think pumping in enough dry air to handle the job might be detrimental. if you were to find a way to make a serious hydroponics style air pump re-circulate the moist air it might work.
 
Hmmm... Thanks for all the info, Dun. After careful consideration, I think it would be easier to start with the tall zoo med 18 x 24 viv than try to retrofit everything into a 30 tall. It actually fits the space better, and would afford me a lot more options in terms of a table to put it on.

Also thinking of opting for a clay background instead of fern panels (somehow I remember them being much cheaper, lol). The only issue with that, is going 3 sided with a clay background, I feel like a lot of the useable inside space will be taken up by the walls. Anything I should worry about not going the full reccomended 2" of clay thickness on the side panels?
 
True. Even then though, it'd have to taper to a thinner edge. Any structural reason for adhering to the 2" thickness rule?

Also, I was reading up on under tank heaters today, and noticed that they don't recommend they be used where the glass might come in contact with water. I assume this is more to avoid temperature shock breakage, but does the same apply to the water in the drainage layer?
 
True.Also, I was reading up on under tank heaters today, and noticed that they don't recommend they be used where the glass might come in contact with water. I assume this is more to avoid temperature shock breakage, but does the same apply to the water in the drainage layer?


You know, I keep an UTH on my African Bull Frog and Crested Gecko tank which both have drainage and I've never had any issues. I guess I'm just a rebel. :D
 
i'd think thickness would affect adhesion at some point since it would directly relate to moisture retention and drying speed. not sure exactly how thin you could go.

i've used uth's in various places filled with water too without incident. usually i use foil tape to secure it, keep the heat in place and even, and keep more contact on the surface longer. however, i suspect the recommendation is more for fluctuation/shatter purposes and to cover the inevitable where liability is concerned. i don't think a body of water on the other side of the glass would be an issue in most cases. cold water dripping on bare hot glass after a serious siphon job, well...

have you looked into eco-web? check this out... http://www.vivariumforum.com/community/dart-frogs/2690-90-gallon-vivarium-construction-progress.html ... it's epi-web, but same thing, really. another option for your b/g if you're interested, with or without the mortar. here's a direct link to the smaller slabs... https://www.firstrays.com/cgi/cart/...87887923.235&product=EcoWeb&pid=324&keywords= ... so you can get an idea of price. i'll vouch for ray personally. he's a good guy who seems to do good business consistently. i've been referring people to him for a couple years with no complaints thus far. and my personal experiences have been good. ecoweb seems to go over very well with those that've used it also... i, personally have not due mostly to price, honestly. eventually...

good choice on the zoo-med. they make for nice, simple displays and easy maintenance.
 
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