Spanking isent really a good idea IMO. And someone can call some people out there to stop you. Well I guess that was then, and this is now.
5 Year Old Girl Arrested, Handcuffed
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Lauren, I agree.
The point of a spanking isn't necessarily the pain, it is the humiliation of it. I never wanted to be spanked in public, therefore, I behaved. I had been spanked before and most kids I know. We all turned out fine. People should mind their own businesses and let parents discipline their children. If not, let the person who doesn't believe in such forms of discipline deal with a child like that. There was a good reason the 50's were so good compared to today: they had woodsheds back then. That was where you learned your lessons. Even on "The Andy Griffith Show." It is sad that people try to treat children as adults, expecting them to think rationally and work out in their minds why they were bad and shouldn't misbehave anymore. "Time-out" is a joke. You'll see when they grow up and are totally selfish and spoiled.
The point of a spanking isn't necessarily the pain, it is the humiliation of it. I never wanted to be spanked in public, therefore, I behaved. I had been spanked before and most kids I know. We all turned out fine. People should mind their own businesses and let parents discipline their children. If not, let the person who doesn't believe in such forms of discipline deal with a child like that. There was a good reason the 50's were so good compared to today: they had woodsheds back then. That was where you learned your lessons. Even on "The Andy Griffith Show." It is sad that people try to treat children as adults, expecting them to think rationally and work out in their minds why they were bad and shouldn't misbehave anymore. "Time-out" is a joke. You'll see when they grow up and are totally selfish and spoiled.
Spanking was the fear to me. It was right before getting spanked, knowing it was coming, knowing I did something wrong, knowing I deserved it. Then WACK and it was over. Also, the disappointment of letting my parents down, making them resort to spanking.
Negative reinforcement is a good thing. The fear of being punished helps keep kids from being bad.
Negative reinforcement is a good thing. The fear of being punished helps keep kids from being bad.
Lauren said:
I agree, I would always know when I was due for some "Negative Reinforcement"
. It kept me outta trouble thinking when I would go over the consequences in my mind.
I agree w/ the spanking thing, as long as it is done correctly. There is over-the-top, borderline abusive spanking (or truly abusive spanking) and then there is spanking as a correction.
My mom only spanked me maybe 3 times, because it was reserved for SERIOUS misbehavior on my part, but I NEVER repeated the offense. I didn't get into a lot of tempting misbehavior because I knew there would be consequences if I got caught. More often than not though, I got "put on restriction" and couldn't go outside and play, which was a killer for me, as I spent as much time playing outside as there was daylight.
My mom only spanked me maybe 3 times, because it was reserved for SERIOUS misbehavior on my part, but I NEVER repeated the offense. I didn't get into a lot of tempting misbehavior because I knew there would be consequences if I got caught. More often than not though, I got "put on restriction" and couldn't go outside and play, which was a killer for me, as I spent as much time playing outside as there was daylight.
slipknottin said:
Not in this part of Canada. I still think that it wasn't a bad way to deal with her. I mean heck, it isn't like they were going to place in in jail for life. The story is obviously one sided making hte cops look bad. Restrainging the girl was probably for the best so that she would calm down and not hurt herself by hitting everything she saw.
Not to turn this into a spanking/no spanking debate, but my kids are past the point of spanking. Sometimes all I have to say to the two younger ones is, I'll swat your butt, and they'll listen. The two little ones get a swat only if absolutely necessary. Right now, I'm learning different avenues for punishment because they are beyond the point of swats. Grounding the older ones, setting the younger ones in their rooms and so on...
Anyway... This was not a normal temper tantrum. I imagine five years is too old for tantrum anyway, don't you think? Though I don't agree with the girl being arrested, there had to be some kind of reaction. She physically attacked people! There's something wrong with that!
I think, if the principal could've contained her, the police should've shown up and sat with the girl. Scare her a bit with their presence. The mother should've been called, then spoken to about what had happened. There should've been a warning.
The girl deserved something, but handcuffed, I just don't agree with.
Lila
Anyway... This was not a normal temper tantrum. I imagine five years is too old for tantrum anyway, don't you think? Though I don't agree with the girl being arrested, there had to be some kind of reaction. She physically attacked people! There's something wrong with that!
I think, if the principal could've contained her, the police should've shown up and sat with the girl. Scare her a bit with their presence. The mother should've been called, then spoken to about what had happened. There should've been a warning.
The girl deserved something, but handcuffed, I just don't agree with.
Lila
Something needed to be done. she was obviously out of control, but that was just ridiculous. I have this little visual of 3 cops pointing guns at her telling her to freeze and put her hands up in the air, grabbing her arms and restraining her. I'm sure it wasn't that bad but thats the picture I have. In cases like these the parent is more often than not the one to blame. That behaviour at 5 is learned. They got there way doing that when they were 2 so why not while they are 5? All kids throw tantrums when they're little but that was beyond a tantrum I think. Spanking would be ineffective in this matter. She obviously is too violent as it is. The mother needs to learn to deal with these tantrums and ignore them but I wonder if it isn't too late.... like my mother always said "you created the little devil"
Here's another vote for "the kid needed the discipline". If the parents can't see that, they are deceived.
Children are gardens. Only discipline and training will keep out the weeds. Love and training encourages healthy growth that produces beautiful fruit that is a joy to all.
But on the other hand, we don't know all the details. We can't judge motive because we can't possibly know all the details and background. The teacher could be at fault. The teacher could have a hate-on for the kid. On the other hand, things could be as they seem. The kid could really be a monster, whose parents saw her as a 'free spirit'.
Children are gardens. Only discipline and training will keep out the weeds. Love and training encourages healthy growth that produces beautiful fruit that is a joy to all.
But on the other hand, we don't know all the details. We can't judge motive because we can't possibly know all the details and background. The teacher could be at fault. The teacher could have a hate-on for the kid. On the other hand, things could be as they seem. The kid could really be a monster, whose parents saw her as a 'free spirit'.
