Advice on T5 Bulbs

of course it's the light that drives algae. algae is photosynthetically active. as are plants. the lights will drive them too.

co2 will drive growth under any lighting conditions. thus helping plants out compete algae. can't argue that... with the exception of inconsistent co2. when the params are not stable algae reacts much faster and gains a foothold.

i am familiar with hoppys testings as well as others... http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lighting/97622-par-data-selecting-t5ho-light.html ... one example.

you believe your recommendations are the best. i believe the same about mine. that's fine. however... i have proof that 2 full length t5ho bulbs do not necessitate algae in shallower tanks than the one in question by far. i may be in the minority... and experiencing success (plants growing/no algae). i cared for my tanks/plants. they grow, algae stays at bay. they struggle, algae gains a foothold... it's been a loooooooong time since, though. i don't use any carbon supplementation atm be it diy, pressurized, florin axis, excel, gluteraldehyde, etc., etc.. my plants still grow. my algae is a non-issue.

yes, i'm familiar with the teachings of mr barr... including those related to a low tech (non-co2 tank).

beings that light drives growth i fail to see how recommending lighting that won't efficiently penetrate the depth of the tank in question is going to keep the plants happy enough to prevent algae. not that it's not possible... just my tanks aren't having it.

i dose ferts as it is. i understand that most folks running similar tanks to mine wouldn't need much, if anything but i certainly do. i boost my gh too as it's almost non-existent in my tap. but, yeah... that's another conversation.

either way, bottom line... the current debate is whether a tank with 2 t5ho bulbs and no co2 can be sustained without algae... my tanks fit that bill and don't have algae. point blank.

i agree that adjusting height helps. i also feel that burning your bulbs in one at a time will severely help. 2 brand new bulbs just might push a tank over the edge. after a week or 2 burn-in period there's a big difference, though. maybe setting them a little higher for the first couple weeks will benefit the op, maybe not. i'd say probably so. i will say it's a lot easier to prevent algae than it is to remove it. a piece of fiberglass screening under the fixtures for a week or two after adding new bulbs would work as well. once algae is there though it doesn't matter if your lights are in their burn- in period or not... there'll be enough to sustain them and they already have a foothold.
 
Your tanks work like that. Congrats! His wont. Im done with this argument.

OP do your research and pick which light you fell will suit your needs the best. Let us know how it goes.
 
OK. I will carefully keep an eye on things and let you know how it progresses. If I see any algae, I will cut back on amount of light and duration..

One thing I didn't see discussed much was duration. Is the main factor in algae problems simply the maximum light output or does duration affect things? I would expect duration to play a substantial role, but maybe I'm just misinformed.
 
OK. I will carefully keep an eye on things and let you know how it progresses. If I see any algae, I will cut back on amount of light and duration..

One thing I didn't see discussed much was duration. Is the main factor in algae problems simply the maximum light output or does duration affect things? I would expect duration to play a substantial role, but maybe I'm just misinformed.

It is another one of those test and see things. I would start at 6 and work your way up.

I use 2 of the 4 banks in my 4x24w Catalina t5ho on my 37g with co2 and all the ferts for 6 hours and that is about as much as I can do with out issue.

Trial and error, but when your dealing algae its best to be careful.
 
8-10 hours a day is ideal (for your plants), recommended (by just about everyone), and cost effective (for your wallet and electric bill).
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one of my tanks gets 10 hours daily. the other gets 10-15 depending on the day. i'll admit, being able to do 15 is not normal by any stretch...
 
Well, it has been about 3 weeks now that I've been running the lighting at 2X54 for 8 hours with a 2 hour mid day boost to 4X54. I haven't seen any bba. I do have a small amount of green algae on a piece of driftwood where it is up very high and on a portion of a rock, but it seems to be staying in place for now and not spreading anywhere.

Plants are doing great!
 
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Ok. Well, I have added many more plants now and dose flourish and flourish excel. I have expanded the lighting period to 10 hours total with a 3 hour peak using all four bulbs. Everything is going great. Algae is under control and my sword has sent out a runner after only a week. Evrything growing crazy fast.
 
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