Am i doing something wrong?

I have a 29 gallon tank and im trying to establish a community tank. My tank has had water in it since November 6th, and has had 4 zebra danios in it since November 9th. I have kept the water between 76 and 80 degrees. Doing 15-20% water changes every few days. I feed them sparingly and they seem happy and healthy. Now whats worrying me is i have NO trace of nitrites or nitrates at all. My ammonia is reading about .5 ppm and hasnt gotten any higher. Should i just keep being patient and do what im doing? or is there something else i should do.

I'm coming into this thread a little late, but we just cycled a 29 gal tank :) with fish (3 zebra danios, 3 platys) and it took from Labor Day to Christmas. In fact in mid-December I started a thread similar to this one because my ammonia seemed stuck at .25 with no nitrite and 5.0 nitrate. However, by Christmas the ammonia went to 0, nitrite went to 0, and nitrate went to 10. We've been rock solid since then. It sounds like you already bought the bio spira, but I'm guessing with a little more patience you'd be cycled soon.

It's tough. I too kept thinking I was doing something wrong, and it was so frustrating doing daily testing and water changes. But we got there.

Good luck to you, it sounds like you're getting there.

James
 
well i added the bio spira wednesday night aroung 7 pm. i tested the water last night and got Ammonia - .25 ppm, Nitrite - 0ppm, and nitrate - im gonna geuss around 4ppm. Its hard to read this one, the color of the water looks almost gold so its not yellow and its not quite orange for 5ppm. In preivous tests i didnt have any nitrate. But still having ammonia obviously means it hasnt cycled. I bought another package of the bio spira while i was there. should i give it a few more days and see what happens??
 
Its been 3 days since adding bio-spira. readings are Ammonia - .25ppm, Nitrite - 0ppm, nitrate - 0 ppm. I thought i may have had nitrate but i did a few tests and its definetly showing yellow. I also havent done a water change since adding bio-spira and my ammonia is staying where it was. Shall i wait a few more days or dump the other packet in there. And should i do a water change? or am i ok for now at .25ppm ammonia.
 
I diddnt read the thread, and if I am wrong please let me know...did you add the fish with the bio spira?
 
well i started my tank without really researching and ended up with a fish in cycle and the fish have been in there for 2 months with no change in nitrites or nitrates, just ammonia. So i tried bio spira to see if i could get something going
 
hmm, it should help you out if you have fish, give it some more time
 
I hate to keep bumping this up but i think im finally cycled! Well as you know i tried bio spira and after 5 days it didnt seem to do anything. And i traveled almost an hour to get it so while i was there i bougt 2 and im glad i did. Because last night i dumped the other packet in and today my readings are Ammonia - 0ppm, Nitrite - 0 ppm, Nitrate - 5ppm. Im guessing this means im cycled. correct? Boy is this a big relief on my next tank i'll be sure to do a fishless cycle. And thank you all very much because now i can actually enjoy my tank!
 
the filter is an Aqua-tech 10/40 power filter (hangs on the back). The filter came with a blue filter cartridge and a Bio-fiber cartridge. There are 4 zebra danios in the tank

Honestly these aren't very good filters. You can get them with bio-wheels, and I'm not sure how well they work compared to the more trustworthy brands, but the ones such as what you bought don't add an optimal amount of oxygen to the filter media in order to establish a bacterial colony. Bacteria grow slowly or not at all with low oxygen.
Here are some other reasons your cycle may have taken so long:
1. Large water changes. They can stress the bacteria and remove a large amount of ammonia which is necessary for establishing a colony. This is why a fishless cycle is better, you don't have to do large water changes for fear your fish may die. Cycling with fish usually only calls for 15-20% water changes every other day. You were worried about them getting stressed which made you decide to do larger changes and prolonged the process.
2. Ph - A bacterial colony takes longer to establish in very high or very low PH. If PH is too low they won't grow at all.
3. Other aspects of your water chemistry could also be to blame. Water chemistry is different everywhere and bacterial growth is effected by many factors.

I think the main thing though is the fact that your bio-filter isn't very good and you were doing large water changes every day.

In regards to Bio-spira, it depends on a lot on how old the bottle you end up with is and how well it was stored. They don't print an expiration date on the bottle so most of, if not all, of the bacteria could be dead. Also, it is supposed to be kept refrigerated, but may have been stored inadequately at one point.
 
Honestly these aren't very good filters. You can get them with bio-wheels, and I'm not sure how well they work compared to the more trustworthy brands, but the ones such as what you bought don't add an optimal amount of oxygen to the filter media in order to establish a bacterial colony. Bacteria grow slowly or not at all with low oxygen.
Here are some other reasons your cycle may have taken so long:
1. Large water changes. They can stress the bacteria and remove a large amount of ammonia which is necessary for establishing a colony. This is why a fishless cycle is better, you don't have to do large water changes for fear your fish may die. Cycling with fish usually only calls for 15-20% water changes every other day. You were worried about them getting stressed which made you decide to do larger changes and prolonged the process.
2. Ph - A bacterial colony takes longer to establish in very high or very low PH. If PH is too low they won't grow at all.
3. Other aspects of your water chemistry could also be to blame. Water chemistry is different everywhere and bacterial growth is effected by many factors.

I think the main thing though is the fact that your bio-filter isn't very good and you were doing large water changes every day.

In regards to Bio-spira, it depends on a lot on how old the bottle you end up with is and how well it was stored. They don't print an expiration date on the bottle so most of, if not all, of the bacteria could be dead. Also, it is supposed to be kept refrigerated, but may have been stored inadequately at one point.


Well i actually wasnt doing water changes EVERY day, more like every 2 or 3 and they were only 15 percent each time. Now regarding the filter.... do you suggest i upgrade? and if so what should i go with? and how would i go about switching to that one? Would i run both filters until i get a bacteria build up on the new one?
 
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