ammonia converting bacteria

**note to self: never mention a brand new product that might work, on this board without wearing your blasting protection gear**

Where do I get one of those? Hehehe This will be the last time for sure. I didn't know there was such a devout following for an aquatics product... and especially that one.
 
Bio-spira is one mediocre selling product by one of 3 major parent companies that own, like, almost everyone. They could care less. And they all have lies on bottles. This is the consolidation age buddy. Your radio station, TV station, newspaper, billboard, sister, and uncle are likely owned by the same company.

This is one reason why everyone isn't lining up to dispute this science. Nobody cares. I haven't seen bio-spira put anyone out of business.
:troll: It is obvious you have an agenda against Marineland. The links I provided were to research done by the University of California. If you think the research was falsified then take it up with them! The reason Bio-Spira has not completely taken out the competition is because :troll: like you who have an agenda to fool others in to buying products that do not work properly!
 
This is the consolidation age buddy. Your radio station, TV station, newspaper, billboard, sister, and uncle are likely owned by the same company.

A fair point I suppose. The truth is we will never know but none of these products will harm your cycle, so as long as people's expectations aren't too high then I guess it makes sense to hedge your bets! :rolleyes:
 
:troll: It is obvious you have an agenda against Marineland. The links I provided were to research done by the University of California. If you think the research was falsified then take it up with them! The reason Bio-Spira has not completely taken out the competition is because :troll: like you who have an agenda to fool others in to buying products that do not work properly!

Bartender, cut this guy off.
 
A fair point I suppose. The truth is we will never know but none of these products will harm your cycle, so as long as people's expectations aren't too high then I guess it makes sense to hedge your bets! :rolleyes:

Perhaps. Perhaps. Well until this stuff quits cycling my tanks with the efficiency of a SEAL team it's my new best friend.
 
A fair point I suppose. The truth is we will never know but none of these products will harm your cycle, so as long as people's expectations aren't too high then I guess it makes sense to hedge your bets! :rolleyes:
While nitrobacter products may not "harm" your cycle, they do not complete the cycle by themselves. Therefore you risk harm to the fish in your aquarium by using them.
 
Bartender, cut this guy off.
after going through the whole thread, hes not the one who needs to be cut off.

the only bacterial supplement that i have tried that has worked is Bio Spira. all of the others have bacteria that live for a week and then they die off and you have more problems than when you started because not only do you have high ammonia, you have high nitrites too.

saying that Bio SPira will harm your cycle is like saying that feeding your fish will kill them. the bacteria in the packets are the bacteria that you need to cycle a tank.
 
While nitrobacter products may not "harm" your cycle, they do not complete the cycle by themselves. Therefore you risk harm to the fish in your aquarium by using them.

Products you are talking about not working that claim to have nitrobacter don't actually have nitrobacter in them... they don't have anything in them.. at all! You're gonna have to get with the program here.

You simply have no experience with nitrobacter whatsoever and as far as I'm concerned have ZERO credibility in this conversation. There are those here who have experience with this bacteria and are batting .1000 with it. Your "theories" aren't good enough.

Please... tell me when you have ever used nitrobacter for anything. This ought to be funny. :bday:
 
While this is all very interesting, I would like to remind all that the OP's question, dated 12/15/06 concerned an issue that is not being discussed and it involved a 72 hour period that has long ago expired. They also have not participated in the thread since then.

So it looks like we should be answering the question of how long the bacteria live without a food source. And some one might want to start a thread on the different effects of nitrifying bacteria. Thanks.
 
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