i dont know if it was aimed at me but if it was; Like you i did not say i was scared but uneasy if theres kids involved. Never seen the Dog whisperer but i have seen the horse wisperer now i no longer fear horses ;-)
Another great Pit Bull article.
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1. When I adopted my AmStaff mix, I researched them. From photos and info on the internet, it was my understanding that they were used in developing the American Pit Bull? Just curious.
2. After reading the continued posts, I remember when I went down the trail to catch my filly--she'd hightailed it down to visit the local stunted stallion who had earlier destroyed my wood fence (and raped the filly all night), and she figured out how to break it down. The owners used to be friends. They own, besides 2 4yo well-bred untrained TWH's with no shelter, a breeding pair of bloodhounds, 4 grown offspring whom they couldn't sell, all dangerous, and kept under the deck, and daughter with baby has an untrained pit bull (surprised?) That dog was let out of the house as they came out (they were expecting me), ran straight to me, and, unprovoked, leapt up and grabbed my wrist in its mouth. If he'd broken skin, I would have broken his neck as I'm fed up with these morons.
These are ignorant, mentally challenged people who understand nothing of animals or children or how to interact with others. Rednecks, drunks, inconsiderate louts, users and abusers, liars, plain stupid, whatever. The 4 children are mostly grown now and all screwed up--her son, at 11, sexually abused a 5 year old girl in the back bathroom while the group of adults prepared food (while drinking ) for a work party. He's in Florida now. POINT: The humans involved in raising young, whatever the species, need to be somewhat intelligent, responsible people or you'll have trouble!!!!
2. After reading the continued posts, I remember when I went down the trail to catch my filly--she'd hightailed it down to visit the local stunted stallion who had earlier destroyed my wood fence (and raped the filly all night), and she figured out how to break it down. The owners used to be friends. They own, besides 2 4yo well-bred untrained TWH's with no shelter, a breeding pair of bloodhounds, 4 grown offspring whom they couldn't sell, all dangerous, and kept under the deck, and daughter with baby has an untrained pit bull (surprised?) That dog was let out of the house as they came out (they were expecting me), ran straight to me, and, unprovoked, leapt up and grabbed my wrist in its mouth. If he'd broken skin, I would have broken his neck as I'm fed up with these morons.
These are ignorant, mentally challenged people who understand nothing of animals or children or how to interact with others. Rednecks, drunks, inconsiderate louts, users and abusers, liars, plain stupid, whatever. The 4 children are mostly grown now and all screwed up--her son, at 11, sexually abused a 5 year old girl in the back bathroom while the group of adults prepared food (while drinking ) for a work party. He's in Florida now. POINT: The humans involved in raising young, whatever the species, need to be somewhat intelligent, responsible people or you'll have trouble!!!!
DansMarineTank said:
um, no. He corrected me when i said pit bulls were not a breed. In fact, pit bulls are not a breed, but a type. The type consists of mixes and registered/recognized breeds, like the Amstaff. And, the APBT is not recognized by reputable clubs such as the AKC and the CanKC.
It wasn't directed at youDansMarineTank said:
I wasn't directing it at anyone in particular. Just felt like busting out with it lol. Anyway, seriously for anyone that has not see The Dog Whisperer...check it out. That is the best freakin dog show ever. This guy knows his stuff...no kidding. And I am not easily impressed. I have used some of the techniques on his show on my own dogs, and they work!!! It is on the National Geographic Channel on Fridays at 7pm central time.
phoenixfyre said:
You are partly right in this statement. The APBT was a human created breed. BUT any breed that has exsisted for over oh shoot I forget something like 200 years in its current fomr is considered a breed.
The reason the AKC and CKC dont officially recognize the breed is actually the politics. I recently read a article in our local newspaper stating something about the CKC not recognizing them at the moment simply because of all the fuss being made about them currently throughout Canada and they were assuming that the breed may not exist towrds the end of the decade due to mass euthanization. Now I am not too sure how much of this is accurate but I know 100% the number of associations that recognize the APBT now far out numbers the amount that dont recognize it. Its something like 70%-30% now
gotta take off for a bit be back in awhile to finish up.
just found this thread.. kind of surprised to see it on here. But i'm a dog lover, any kind dont care - we have a lab/pit mix - the dumbest dog ever, but we love him - yet my dad thinks all pit bulls should be banned..
i know someone before was talking about parents responsibility and owners resp. of a large dog and knowing the consequences, but is it really the owners fault that while keeping 2 huskies in the back yard privacy wood fence and repeatedly telling the parents of a little girl to not let her climb the fence because the dogs are protective, eventually she got hurt still the pet owner's fault?
if i had the ability i would rescue all the "mean" unwanted dogs I could.. and probably will along with all the unwanted horses, cats and whatever else i can find.
Just felt like putting a little bit in here since dad and boyfriend hate pits anything that looks like bits (yet we have one, and b/f has a boxer and wants a bulldog). I just think that some things just seem to get out of hand and it really makes me want to leave the US - no offense i totally support the country(sister is in the military), but people are so close minded and uneducated about certain things ( which im sure is everywhere) that is surprises me that we even get along 1/2 the time. And why can't people change? If we would put a little more money/time into educating people, not just about dogs, but fixing up areas that are in a decline, people overall would have a better understanding of life. anyways gotta finish working and sorry for the mispelled stuff.
i know someone before was talking about parents responsibility and owners resp. of a large dog and knowing the consequences, but is it really the owners fault that while keeping 2 huskies in the back yard privacy wood fence and repeatedly telling the parents of a little girl to not let her climb the fence because the dogs are protective, eventually she got hurt still the pet owner's fault?
if i had the ability i would rescue all the "mean" unwanted dogs I could.. and probably will along with all the unwanted horses, cats and whatever else i can find.
Just felt like putting a little bit in here since dad and boyfriend hate pits anything that looks like bits (yet we have one, and b/f has a boxer and wants a bulldog). I just think that some things just seem to get out of hand and it really makes me want to leave the US - no offense i totally support the country(sister is in the military), but people are so close minded and uneducated about certain things ( which im sure is everywhere) that is surprises me that we even get along 1/2 the time. And why can't people change? If we would put a little more money/time into educating people, not just about dogs, but fixing up areas that are in a decline, people overall would have a better understanding of life. anyways gotta finish working and sorry for the mispelled stuff.
I am not uneducated about pitbulls. Show me and article where a pitbull did not attack someone. Can you live with the fact you could have stopped a pitbull from ruining a families life? I did not think that when he left his yard he would do what he did. You can tell me all these facts if you want or post websites containing them. Propaganda. there might be nice pitbulls out there. Here they will be shot by anyone in the town on site. People like you try to convince ppl that not all pitbulls are bad. truth is they were breed for one reason and one reason only. It might breed out of them i doubt it.
A pitbull comes in the yard how do you know how he was raised.
A pitbull comes in the yard how do you know how he was raised.
whoa.... i cant think of anything else to say to that.. i'm sure there are some things but you might say it has nothing to do with the topic.. but you are entitled to your opinion and since no one can change that i guess you'll just keep it.
nccoastal said:
Seriously man, you should stop posting in here right now, because with every post you just make yourself look worse and worse. I could within 5 minutes show your 1000s of articles that are attacks that arent done by pits.
You are honestly VERY uneducated about them. You have proved this to everybody here.
I dont really understand half of what you posted either. How could I have stopped a pit bull from ruining a families life? None of the dogs I have sold or bred have ever ruined a families life. I dont understand what you are saying.
And I have posted sites adn facts, You just refuse to pay attention to them. you prove it by saying they were bred for one thing and one thing only. This I would assume you are meaning "to be killers" or something similar. This proves to me that you are un-educated about them. They were bred to be loyal to humans and aggressive towards other animals, as were most terrier breeds. They were never bred to be aggressive towards people.
A little tid-bit to show this is: When they were bred to fight in pits, there were men in the pits with the dogs in every fight. The dogs could not be aggressive towards the men, only aggressive towards the other dogs. If a man took his dog into a pit fight and it won he needed to know he could then take the dog and take it home and treat its wounds and work with it without getting bitten or attacked. If the dog was aggressive towards the men, they would be put to sleep simply because they wouldnt be ablt to control them at the during and after a fight and probably wouldnt be able to treat their wounds without getting bitten. Aggression towards humans was bred out of them if anything. This in itself proves to an extent that you are wrong. Unfortunately an un-trained dog is essentially a wild animal, and all and I mean all wild animals are un-predictable, no matter what species or breed they are.
I do also have to say that with every post you just sound more and more like you are just trying to troll up this thread. Sorry I dont mean to sound rude or anything but its true.
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Hmmm...Should we ban cars to prevent car accidents?
How many laws need to be passed to prevent human stupidity from thinning the gene pool? Personally, I'm in favor of adding a bit more chlorine.
Dogs bite. All dogs--yes, every swinging one of them--can be provoked enough to bite. I have 2 wonderful four legged friends. One of them is a pointer mix, and is the gentlest 70 pounds you've ever seen. Little kids come charging up, and he just flops over, let's them crawl on him, pull his ears, walk on him, whatever. But--if an adult he doesn't know comes near, he's very aggressive until I tell him it's okay. I've never had to find out, but I'm pretty sure he'd attack someone who was attacking me--and I love him all the more for that! The other dog is friendly and happy around most adults, though cautious around ones he doesn't know, particularly if my husband and I aren't around. He wants hugs from everyone, loves going to the dog park to get petted. But I do NOT trust him around kids! He doesn't like kids, growls and barks, hackles raised, anytime kids are around, even if they aren't trying to pet him. He's never bitten, but I make sure he doesn't have the chance.
Everyone has the right to 'hate' anything they please, but to do so in a thread like this is to expose your own bias and ignorance. Your choice. Don't attack someone else for identifying this fact, and don't act like it makes you right to be an extremist.
How many laws need to be passed to prevent human stupidity from thinning the gene pool? Personally, I'm in favor of adding a bit more chlorine.
Dogs bite. All dogs--yes, every swinging one of them--can be provoked enough to bite. I have 2 wonderful four legged friends. One of them is a pointer mix, and is the gentlest 70 pounds you've ever seen. Little kids come charging up, and he just flops over, let's them crawl on him, pull his ears, walk on him, whatever. But--if an adult he doesn't know comes near, he's very aggressive until I tell him it's okay. I've never had to find out, but I'm pretty sure he'd attack someone who was attacking me--and I love him all the more for that! The other dog is friendly and happy around most adults, though cautious around ones he doesn't know, particularly if my husband and I aren't around. He wants hugs from everyone, loves going to the dog park to get petted. But I do NOT trust him around kids! He doesn't like kids, growls and barks, hackles raised, anytime kids are around, even if they aren't trying to pet him. He's never bitten, but I make sure he doesn't have the chance.
Everyone has the right to 'hate' anything they please, but to do so in a thread like this is to expose your own bias and ignorance. Your choice. Don't attack someone else for identifying this fact, and don't act like it makes you right to be an extremist.
