Another great Pit Bull article.

O.G. has spoken!! Hahaha O.G. I missed you and love you!!! Hahaha Unless of course you are directing that at me then GRRRR I AM ANGRY AAAAAARGH!! Hahaha.

But seriously though. Yes you are right.

Also NCcoastal: Your right I dont know how a dog was trained when it enters my yard, but the question is the same for you. How do you know how a dog is trained when it enters your yard? You dont know hence giving you even less right to shoot it as you say you would.
 
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oooooh, I want a pit bull. Too bad my apartment is already crammed full of animals as it is. I've never owned one, but I think they are a gorgeous breed.
I find myself facing the same biased, discrimination, and ignorance about my reptiles. I have an 8' albino burmese python and soooooo many people have it in thier minds that one of these days this snake is going to eat me. I've had trouble finding an apartment simply because people just dont like them. not ONCE have I been bitten or attacked by this snake. I even take him to the schools around here for show and tell and education.
Alot of places have laws that ban large reptiles because they are "dangerous" and "unpredictable" In reality the only thing that makes them dangerous is improper care and handling, lack of education by the owner, and sheer human stupidity. I'm sure that there would be quite a fit here if alot of places banned the sale/purchase of lionfishes simply because they are poisonous.
One thing I do support 100% is not banning, but the requirment of permits for keeping certain animals. It would discourage those who don't know how to properly care for these animals, and it would keep these creatures in the hands of responsible pet owners. If you can afford the vet bill for an animal, then you can afford to register/permit/whatever your pet. I think the animal abuse laws should be alot more strict, and that "backyard breeders" should be outlawed and that you should be required to have some kind of license if you are breeding any animal.
 
Well, if you want to get technical about it. Most "Pit bull" breeds were not breed to fight. Usually they were breed for either security or large animal herding (cow, hog). I think the only dog that was really breed to fight other dogs was the bulldog. And that was after it was already around and not it's sole purpose.
 
nccoastal said:
move next door to me
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Heck, no, I might get shot!


>>Please do not support the punishment of Pit Bulls for the sins of some of the unscrupulous people who own them.<<

I love this sentiment. Of course, you could replace 'Pit Bulls' with a lot of things.
 
OrionGirl said:
Hmmm...Should we ban cars to prevent car accidents?
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No, but certain car models have been banned from North American roads as they have been deemed too dangerous to co-exist with other vehicles.



This pitbull ban thing is not as simply as comparing them to cars or guns. Its a living, breathing animal and should be considered as such when any discussion takes place.


I think ultimately, its not the dog, its the people that own them that cause the fear in the populace. These people would make a toy poodle into a feral dog if given the chance***.




*** please note, I am not referring to civilized, responsible owners. I'm taking about the trailer park types that want to have a "killing machine" on the end of the leash to make themselves look tough. These were thew ones that gave Rotties and Dobies a bad name in the 70s and 80s
 
well all this talk about being educated about pitbulls makes sense. but if you ask me the only ones that really need educated are the ones that want to own one. I realize all of you that prize this breed obviously take proper care and are VERY WELL EDUCATED...props to you all. but its the owners that arent that i worry about. as for the car comparison....lol....will you buy a car that has a poor crash protective rating? or would you go ahead and buy it because someone else had good experience with it? no , you wouldnt. you have to trust the people that studied it. same here with these dogs. you have to really beleive that most take care of animals ok. but youll never know until its possibly too late.

now , i was talking to a friend at work about this article...which is a very good one i must say. he was telling me that his town has a lot of pitbulls too. he has 3 at 3 different houses on his block. he told me that the one across the street from him is always loose. even when it is chained it ends up breaking it and getting loose. it comes in his yard and goes around his dogs pen trying to get his dog which is in it. he said he called police about it running loose and coming over but they did nothing. another time this dog chased his wife and she barely got her last foot in the door before he wouldve gotten her. i told him to call the county cops and see what they can do. and anytime that the dog gets loose they send their 5 & 8 year old children to get it. i just thank god it wasnt one of his children because they wouldnt have gotten away. He says that there are a lot of "gangsta" wannabes in his town. that it is "gansta" to have a pitbull. is that stupid or what? if i got no response from county i would take it into my own hands....then what do you think would happen.....yeah..lol the cops would probably respond then , wouldnt they. just like they would respond AFTER an attack. and this goes back to my point and those of you who responsibly own these dogs...what i just wrote should prove both of us right in that I worry about how the owners care for them...and...YOU ALL talk of education. as you are right more education would prevent more attacks. but honestly you educated ones ARE THE MINORITY.

now speaking of attacks. yes i know all dogs attack. but not all dogs have the maiming ability. hmmmmmmm...lemme see....get attacked by pitbull or shi-tzu....hmmmmm tough one.....i think ill take my chances with a shi-tzu.
 
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Tell your friend to call animal control, not the police. That's what animal control is for. They will either pick up the dog if it is loose, or if it isnt when they get there, they will give the owner a warning, then they will start writing tickets. After so many tickets, they take the animal away. Lots of dogs have the ability to kill someone. German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Labradors, Shar-peis, Boxers, most hound breeds, most herding breeds, most working breeds. So it isn't just Pit bulls that can "mame" or kill someone. Just so happens that the "gangsa's" prefer them. Sucks for the dogs if ya ask me.
 
I get what you mean about ability and all but it is a un-useable arguement. I personally have 8 years training in Muay Thai, 6 years in Jiu Jitsu, 3 years in Judo, 3 years in Wing Chun kung fu, and 1 year in Aikido. I had to be registered for my abilites and am on file with the RCMP as a "dangerous" weapon. Which means I am not supposed to fight unless it is in the ring in a registered fight, I can only passively defend myself outside the ring. Does this mean I should be banned simply because I have more ability to do damage or hurt somebody than most other people?
Should strong men be banned because IF they snap and go off on somebody chances are it would be very very bad?

You gotta look at these things when you say something like that. Like I said I understand what you mean, but you have to consider where I am coming from on this part.
Cows could easily kill a child as could horses but they are still at every petting zoo I have ever gone to.

Anywho, the real issue is owners, Though I am 100% against banning, I am 100% for licensing, I think having to be licesned to own any "large breed" or "aggressive" dog would be a great thing and would help out the situation tremendously. The main issue is that we all know the government is gonna charge out the arse for it. I mean it is good to make it failry pricey, that way it shows you have the financial ability to take care of this type of animal, but at the same time, it makes it hard for deserving people who may not be in the best financial situation to own the animal they really want, but this really is an acceptable sacrifice.
 
I am all for the pitties, I love them myself, have a dog that is half pit, but....I don't see how lisencing would be of any help. Most places require you to register your dogs with the county anyway. Plus most of the people that own the dogs that are aggressive and "attack" people, are people who wouldnt follow the rules anyway. I kind of see where you are coming from, but I don't see how this would help the problem in any way.
 
Yeah, I'll agree with that. I do love the pitts too, they are beautiful dogs and in the right hands can be great family members. When in the wrong hands unfortunately, are the dogs who make the media. And for these wrong hands to register them... nah, why would they bother with that when most other things they do aren't by law either?
 
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