Assault Weapons Ban- Yea or Nea?

Well first off, bias does not mean anything, arguments stand or fall on their own. And statistics are hardly stereotypes.

Secondly, if it was the gun ban that keeps their homicide rate so low, why is it that there are extremely few stabbings? We have some 200x more stabbings than they do.


And I appreciate the comment that I know nothing about japanese culture, you bring up something I wasent even talking about, I say im not talking about that, and its me being ignorant? Hmm.
 
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I never said any one was ignorant. But samurai ethics are extremely important to contemporary Japanese culture (along with Confucius and Buddhism what do you think highschool kids learn in ethics class?) - it's extremely germane to said discussion. Though, I do know what I'm talking about.

I said Japan bans guns, they have a lower violent crime homocide rate which I think was pretty germane to the topic at hand. I don't, however, want to get into any kind of flame war.
 
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Originally posted by kikuchiyo
I never said any one was ignorant. Though, I do know what I'm talking about.
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nice edit there, from 'then you dont know anything about to japan' to 'you dont know what your arguing' :rolleyes:

then why cant you explain why japan has so fewer stabbings?

There is no evidence that the gun ban has anything to do with the homicide rate in japan. Unless you provide some data, which you havent.
 
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I edited that before you posted, I believe as it sounded to harsh (as the Japanese might say).

Logical fallacy: straw man argument, red herring. Logic 101.

Stabbings have nothing to do with gun violence (unless, you believe that it all comes under a culture of fear, which I think is a good argument). If you want me to say yes, there is a cultural bias towards non-violence in post war Japan, I won't argue (then again, that's not counting either yakuza or contemporary Japanese film).
 
Originally posted by kikuchiyo

Stabbings have nothing to do with gun violence
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Um, the red herring argument only applies if topic b has nothing to do with topic a.

Stabbings and shootings are what makes up the majority of the homicidies in both countries, meaning they are both relevant to the current discussion.

The homicide rate is lower in japan, and you attempted to attribute that entirely to the gun ban, which makes no sense at all.
 
does it? There is no law banning the ownership of small knives in japan, yet there are virtually no stabbings. As compared to this country where the majority of all homicides are commited by <5" knives.
 
There is no law banning the ownership of small knives in japan, yet there are virtually no stabbings.

News to me, after reading the Mainichi everyday. Then again, the Mainichi is pretty sensationalist, when compared to the Asahi or Yomiuri.

I freely admit there Japanese culture plays some part in the low rate
 
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whats news to you? Your saying their are alot of stabbings?


The homicide rate in japan is significantly lower than it is in the US

If you remove all the gun statistics from the US homicide rate it is still signficantly higher than the japanese rate.
 
While I admit that the following statement might be on the ignorant side when you consider other factors... it is still true.

Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Plain and simple.


If someone wants to kill another person, they will do it. Having a gun or not isn't going to change their mind, they have a billion other methods they could use... knives, poison, baseball bats, golf clubs, cars, arson, water, dogs... the list is never ending.

And, as already said, gun control doesn't solve anything. Law abiding citizens are the only ones who'd follow it and the only ones being punished. A little "gun control" isn't going to stop the crack dealer down the street from getting a gun if he wants one... heck, they ALREADY are getting them illegally.
 
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