Brentling's 125 Startup Thread - Lots o' Pics

Well, the best suggestion I could make for copying what's on the expensive setup (if you don't mind the cost) would be go to a metal shop that does fabrications and see if they can't put some 5/8" octagonal bars (maybe 3" lengths) on the lathe to make one end round for the size holes you're drilling, then thread the rounded ends and drill a hole through the entire length to run the cable through. You could slap a nut on the end after puting it through the canopy and crimp on a loop back at the end of the cable inside the fixture to keep the end from sliding through, and have a pretty clean looking connection when viewed from the topside of the fixture. No idea what it would cost, but the work involved shouldn't be too difficult at least. If I had access to me dad's metal lathe, and his tap and die set, I could prolly do it for you myself.

Another idea might be take a straight bolt, weld the cable to the head, and then cover the hole connection with black silicone and try to get it smooth and conical up the cable. Don't know if soldering would work, but it's a thought if you don't know anyone who welds.

Barring all that, just do the loop back and crimp one end of the cable, run the other end up through it, and let the housing hang clean. Dunno if you'd like the hole showing though. Some black silicone on the inside of the fixture would make it a LOT less vissible at least.
 
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I would look for your nearest electrical supply store. I have seen these kits to hang pendant lights for commercial application just the other day. They included the cable and bolts in one package. Call around i'm sure they will have something in stock.
Your cork background look amazing. Can't wait to see it running.
 
nice tank. you could cut down on your lighting to stop the algae from forming.

i second the eheim classic canisters. great filter and low maintenance. you might want to get 2 inline heaters... if the filter with the heater fails, your tank will lose heat... eheims are reliable though so you may not have to worry about it...
 
Sorry, no advice here on the light mounting. You need to be very careful about the slime algae because, as you probably already know, it can get out of control quick. You definitely need to think about backing down the lights or going completely dark for a few days to stop it completely. I can't wait to see the pics of your "grow in!"
 
I got an Eheim 2217 Classic canister filter today and will be setting that puppy up ASAP! I also got an in line heater which will be awesome. Now I have to think about adding a few fish. Since I have had plants in there for quite a while and used mulm from the old tank and ferts, hopefully I will not need to completely cycle this tank. I don't feel too great about the fishless cycling methods, so I think I will find some hardy fish to add to it for a bit. I'll need to find some that I want in for the long run, as it will be nearly impossible to catch them to remove later.

Merry Christmas all!
 
Well, if you've had an algae issue starting up in there, I'd allow the fishless cycle to bring the amonia and nitrite down to zero and then add a dozen ottos as the first residents myself.
 
Brent, seriously, with a tank like that, don't let your stocking decesions be based on what's going to survive through a cycle. Get a dozen or 13 (figure 1 per 10 gallons) cocktail sized shrimp - uncooked - and plant them in the substrate. Wait for the ammonia and nitrates to go away, then add your full stock. Speed it up by hanging a sockfull of gravel from a mature tanks on one of your driftwoods while the tank cycles, then take it out the same time you stock.

I'm not a big fan of the fishless cycle either, but for the kind of patience you've shown on this tank, and the kind of work you put into it, and the kind of stock you're looking at, go for it. The theory is sound, and the dummies version I just laid out will work just fine.
 
Wow, that sounds like one HECK of a bioload to toss in there for cycling. The concept seems sound to me for building up a masive bacterial colony, but would those shrimp fully biodegrade by the time the amonia drops to zero? I'd be concerned that the bacteria colony built up by that over an average of 5 weeks to level out the amonia would still be working on the output from the remains of the shrimp for some time after hitting a zero amonia level, just keeping things ballanced and in check. Wouldn't it be better to put the shrimp in netting so you can pull out whatever is left of it when you populate the tank so that the bacteria will simply trade off from the decaying shrimp to the natural bioload of the occupents instead of having to take on the fish on top of the shrimp remains? That, or maybe chop the shrimp up into smaller pieces to ensure it fully breaks down by then?
 
Wow, that sounds like one HECK of a bioload to toss in there for cycling. The concept seems sound to me for building up a masive bacterial colony, but would those shrimp fully biodegrade by the time the amonia drops to zero? I'd be concerned that the bacteria colony built up by that over an average of 5 weeks to level out the amonia would still be working on the output from the remains of the shrimp for some time after hitting a zero amonia level, just keeping things ballanced and in check. Wouldn't it be better to put the shrimp in netting so you can pull out whatever is left of it when you populate the tank so that the bacteria will simply trade off from the decaying shrimp to the natural bioload of the occupents instead of having to take on the fish on top of the shrimp remains? That, or maybe chop the shrimp up into smaller pieces to ensure it fully breaks down by then?

That's the old school formula for cycling fishless. Actually, the oldest of old school used dead feeder goldfish instead of cocktail shrimp. 1/10 gallons. YMMV, but it has worked for many over the years.
 
They make instant cycle in bottles.
http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/biosp02.htm
I used it on my new 29 gallon tank and added fish the next day and never had a problem.

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