Crazy Science Fact

[Jakezori]

I would never be absurd enough to think we are the only life in existence. Since the size of the universe or universes are unknown, then too is the possibility of life existing beyond our known limits. To think we are the only life forms, to me is pure arrogance and narrow-minded. The possibility of other life forms need not be human or by anything we have labeled or discovered thus far. Though maybe not probable, one needs to be open to the possibility that life does exists elsewhere. If we close our minds to the possibility, we have assured ourselves of never finding any. If we do not dream and envision, we do not discover.

I never said I'm not open minded about it. I said in my opinion we are alone. We have 0 proof of any other life forms. If you compare the probability of evolution occurring and successfully making a life form to the amount of planets it makes sense that we could be alone. Also, no-one is closing their minds to possibility. There are thousands upon thousands of people trying to discover life elsewhere, and if there is life elsewhere, my guess is they would be trying to reach us. What I was trying to say earlier is simply that it seems silly to me to think that there is absolutely life elsewhere when we have 0 proof. So it goes both ways if you ask me.


"To think we are the only life forms, to me is pure arrogance and narrow-minded." ---

To think we are not alone to me is pure arrogance and narrow-minded. (to me of course it is not, but when insulting another party when trying to make a point, even if indirectly, is a logical fallacy).

 

[Jakezori]

this one boggles me...
I read somewhere that

1,000 pounds
of GOLD would be approximately 11 inches square..

although gold is heavy, its not that heavy. Those little gold blocks you see in pics of fort knox are 60lbs I believe.

 

[FISHSHROD]

to me either claim is relatively absurd,

Are you serious ? There is no way that we are the only planet with life . I don't think it's absurd to think that we are not the only planet with life. Look at the big picture, where we are located in our galaxy with hundreds of billions of stars just in our galaxy. And there are hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars in them and I'm pretty sure there has to be at least 1 other planet that has life mg:. Peace

 

[Jakezori]

Are you serious ? There is no way that we are the only planet with life . I don't think it's absurd to think that we are not the only planet with life. Look at the big picture, where we are located in our galaxy with hundreds of billions of stars just in our galaxy. And there are hundreds of billions of galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars in them and I'm pretty sure there has to be at least 1 other planet that has life mg:.

I realize this... Now think of how many things must fit perfectly in place in order for life to evolve. A flagellum motor has 24 parts. Some of those parts come from other organisms, but some are only found in the flagellum. Each part of the motor must be put together in certain parts in perfect order. This is but one example of millions of things that must happen perfectly in order for life to have the possibility of evolving. So, the number of planets (organisms don't live on starts) when coordinated with this fact makes one realize that there is more than a possibility that there could be no other life in the universe.

 

[OgreMkV]

http://exoplanet.eu/catalog.php

Keep in mind that we can only 'find' planets Jupiter size or larger. It is very difficult to find smaller bodies... but rest assured that if you find one, there are many more.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17628-found-first-amino-acid-on-a-comet.html

The building blocks of life, amino acids, have been confirmed in a comet... that is something that's an average temperature of about -250 degrees Celsius and no atmosphere. Anyone assuming that there is no life in the galaxy just doesn't understand.

Keep in mind that the life might no be as advanced as we are. Dinosaurs went for millions of years and never made a single tool. What we've done in just 50,000 years is astounding.

Also consider the distances (from space.com), [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Let's say that the entire universe was shrunk to about one five-billionth of its true size, a scale that conveniently makes the sun about the size of a basketball. You might think this scale would make the entire solar system only a few yards across, but that is because few of us really grasp the scale of things in the cosmos.
On that scale Mercury, the nearest planet to the sun, would be a tiny dot about 1 millimeter across at a distance of 36 feet (11 meters) from the "sun." The next planet -- Venus -- would be a dot 2.5 millimeters across and 67 feet (20 meters) away. Our huge beautiful Earth would become a tiny dot the same size as Venus, but 93 feet (28 meters) from the basketball-sized sun.
But those are only the inner reaches of our solar system. From there outward, the distances really start to grow. Mars would be another pinhead 142 feet (43 meters) away. Jupiter, a ball 1-inch (2.5 centimeters) in size, would sit 480 feet (147 meters) away, while Saturn, a slightly smaller ball, would be placed almost 900 feet (270 meters) from the "sun" -- and so on out to distant Pluto, another tiny pinhead, circling the "sun" at an average distance of well over half a mile (over 1kilometer).
Not quite what most of us imagine -- is it -- that if the sun were the size of a basketball, the solar system would still be more than a mile across?
On to the stars
What about the nearest star? That's where the distances become truly insurmountable. On that scale the nearest star would be almost 5,000 miles (8,000 kilometers) away. If our basketball-sized sun were in downtown Los Angeles, distant Pluto would be a few blocks away, but the nearest star would be another basketball somewhere in the North Atlantic, near Greenland.
It is those enormous distances that make travel to the stars something that humans will probably never accomplish or even attempt. The fastest speed any vehicle carrying people has ever reached is 25,000 miles (40,000 kilometers) per hour, at which speed a voyage to the nearest star would require over 100,000 years. Even assuming a tenfold increase in speed, a one-way trip would still require over 10,000 years, a period of time longer than the history of civilization.
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[Jakezori]

IMHO the fact that we find the things that require life (while it is a large leap) is no where near what is required to actually make life. The very vastness and awesomeness of the universe and life is one reason why I believe in God (among millions of other things hehe). To me when I see something built perfectly I think "that must have a builder"... Same thing with the Universe, and especially the earth. It's sooo cool!!! Although I totally understand how others believe in only what they see, feel, touch etc. (although you cant do those thing with your brain hehe), I feel, see, and touch God more than anything. Creation is awesome!

 

[petluvr]

I believe there is life outside of our planet and I also believe that when we say this must be there and that must happen before life can occur is simply showing the relative smallness of our intelligence as a species. Just because these things must occur for life AS WE KNOW IT to happen doesn't mean it has to be that way in a galaxy millions of light years from here. I also tend to believe what we as humans think is true about physics is also relative only to our planet and our STUDIED solar system, but that a being of a different world. What I am trying to say is just because amino acids and water are required for life on Earth doesn't necessarily mean it is required outside of Earth of course this is just my opinion.
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[excuzzzeme]

Let's try this again, I was not trying to insult anyone directly or indirectly. Simply stating what I think. There need not be any rational in what I think as written communication is still affected. None-the-less, I try not to pull punches or to attack when stating what I think. IOW-IMHO!

I believe in the possibility of other life forms. This does not mean I believe in the existence of them. I am all for trying to find them. With the vastness of the known universe, the sheer magnitude of it would have to lend itself to the credence of possibilities. IMHO!

 

[Jakezori]

I believe there is life outside of our planet and I also believe that when we say this must be there and that must happen before life can occur is simply showing the relative smallness of our intelligence as a species. Just because these things must occur for life AS WE KNOW IT to happen doesn't mean it has to be that way in a galaxy millions of light years from here. I also tend to believe what we as humans think is true about physics is also relative only to our planet and our STUDIED solar system, but that a being of a different world. What I am trying to say is just because amino acids and water are required for life on Earth doesn't necessarily mean it is required outside of Earth of course this is just my opinion.
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I agree with some things and disagree with others. You seem like more of a relativist, which is fine. All science is not nessisarily "FACT" as we came up with everything by experiments and what we have experience so I understand your view. All we have to depend on however is what we know, so I am simply going off of that =).

 

[Jakezori]

Let's try this again, I was not trying to insult anyone directly or indirectly. Simply stating what I think. There need not be any rational in what I think as written communication is still affected. None-the-less, I try not to pull punches or to attack when stating what I think. IOW-IMHO!

I believe in the possibility of other life forms. This does not mean I believe in the existence of them. I am all for trying to find them. With the vastness of the known universe, the sheer magnitude of it would have to lend itself to the credence of possibilities. IMHO!

Cool cool man. In your first one you used a couple of absolute statements that's all.