sigh, its always our addicting habits and greed. just like the tobacco companies the oil and logging companies are against it. they are very similar when you think about it, putting smoke and chemicals where they dont belong...
Disprove Global Warming!!!
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Personally, I really don't care how much impact we are having...the fact that we are hurting our planet is enough cause for me. I think the problem is the whole debate itself.
I am highly sceptical of humankind's role in global warming but I have no problem with saving resources and cutting pollution within practical limits. We recycle and drive a Prius. I walk the walk. But I do not buy into the political and yes, religous undertones of this man-caused global warming hysteria.
They are talking about carbon taxes and cap and trade taxes on a scale that can wreck economies.
They are talking about carbon taxes and cap and trade taxes on a scale that can wreck economies.
Unless of course your name is AL, and you get one of them Nobel Peace Prize thingys. And basically forced to turn your 10k sq ft mansion into a "green" house.
Now, I wonder just how much was paid for that "prize"? Well, not really. But just kinda curious for a second. : P
Well, this thread is chock full of opinions, but sadly very light on actual info. Anyone else out there with some more scientific journal articles to add? I distrust any sources from a media or web based outlet for obvious reasons.
Ooops forgot this was a "disprove" thing.
Most(if not all) of my opinions come from watching Discovery Channel, The Learning Channel and History Channel.
I haven't and doubt I'll spend much more time than it takes to watch some of those shows, studying anything like global warning. Unless of course the "people" on this planet make a huge change in their, material "want a, gotta have, got a keep of with the jones' " out look on life.
So... nope, aint got no dissproves to point you to. Mainly because, yea we are a problem. And yea, the planet with do a massive water change one day. Or something earlier will happen, like a meteor hitting us? I doubt the later in our life time, but idk that either.
Besides of the just mentioned problem with us. We need to start seeing a negative in population each year, to have a itty bitty slightest chance of helping the planet fix itself.
dangit, there I go off(opposite) subject again.
Most(if not all) of my opinions come from watching Discovery Channel, The Learning Channel and History Channel.
I haven't and doubt I'll spend much more time than it takes to watch some of those shows, studying anything like global warning. Unless of course the "people" on this planet make a huge change in their, material "want a, gotta have, got a keep of with the jones' " out look on life.
So... nope, aint got no dissproves to point you to. Mainly because, yea we are a problem. And yea, the planet with do a massive water change one day. Or something earlier will happen, like a meteor hitting us? I doubt the later in our life time, but idk that either.
Besides of the just mentioned problem with us. We need to start seeing a negative in population each year, to have a itty bitty slightest chance of helping the planet fix itself.
dangit, there I go off(opposite) subject again.
The debate over global warming is an inspirational one but it is unrealistic to think we can change everyone's lifestyles to do anything about it, if we are a significant cause, especially if we have to change rapidly to reverse the effects.
Our country (US) has the means to move in an environmentally friendly direction, however most of the developing countries in the world (China, India, Africa etc) which are also large percentages of the worlds population, either do not have that capacity or they are unwilling or uneducated or repressed enough to not care beyond food, shelter and life's basic needs. We should be moving in a direction as we always have in the past that supports invention and improving upon past inventions. Human nature is to survive and to do whatever necessary to do so. This is the only way I see that we will get the worlds population to create less impact on the planet if that is the direction we need to go (produce stuff that makes life easier for them and they will buy into it, just as long as we improve....we don't use lead in many things anymore!).
I still feel that we are insignificant to the planets cycle. Think about it in time, how long have we been here? how old is the planet? I am pretty sure large earthquakes, volcanoes, dramatic climate changes, and more happened before humans were around. Now we produce some excess gas and chemicals and people think we are all rapidly killing the planet? anyways enough from me!
Quick fact:In the early 1900's 80% of my state was covered in farms. Today the state is almost 75% covered in trees. I wonder how much carbon dioxide that gives off at night?
Yes QUE my backyard! Don't know of too many towns from 200 or so years ago that have not been rebuilt, destroyed or abandoned only to go back years later and find nothing but trees and plants where a road, building or the such use to be. I don't need anything but observation to stand by my statement in this case, albeit may be more difficult to see in a urban area, but it is there.
Our country (US) has the means to move in an environmentally friendly direction, however most of the developing countries in the world (China, India, Africa etc) which are also large percentages of the worlds population, either do not have that capacity or they are unwilling or uneducated or repressed enough to not care beyond food, shelter and life's basic needs. We should be moving in a direction as we always have in the past that supports invention and improving upon past inventions. Human nature is to survive and to do whatever necessary to do so. This is the only way I see that we will get the worlds population to create less impact on the planet if that is the direction we need to go (produce stuff that makes life easier for them and they will buy into it, just as long as we improve....we don't use lead in many things anymore!).
I still feel that we are insignificant to the planets cycle. Think about it in time, how long have we been here? how old is the planet? I am pretty sure large earthquakes, volcanoes, dramatic climate changes, and more happened before humans were around. Now we produce some excess gas and chemicals and people think we are all rapidly killing the planet? anyways enough from me!
Quick fact:In the early 1900's 80% of my state was covered in farms. Today the state is almost 75% covered in trees. I wonder how much carbon dioxide that gives off at night?
Yes QUE my backyard! Don't know of too many towns from 200 or so years ago that have not been rebuilt, destroyed or abandoned only to go back years later and find nothing but trees and plants where a road, building or the such use to be. I don't need anything but observation to stand by my statement in this case, albeit may be more difficult to see in a urban area, but it is there.
This is the first time I have heard of such a claim being made. If anything, many towns take pride in preserving their history. Do I need to move now? My house is 300+ years old. The town was there before the house was built. So by your reasoning my house doesn't exist?
Better tell google maps that all these towns haven't existed in the last 200 years even though there are people still living in many of them. Using my front door as a center and radius out 50-100 miles I can name more than 2 dozen of these towns that existed not only 200 years ago, some existed 400 years ago. I assure you they are far from being ghost towns.
Toss out the political nonsense and it is possible that an entire new "theory" could be postulated based on facts found. One of the greatest problems in science is the clique system for peer review of presented findings and postulations. Our own ignorance and unwillingness to entertain anything different from our preconceived ideas could possibly cause a mass-extinction event. As long as we insist that only our view is the correct one, we as a species are doomed by our own hands.
The oldest things found on this planet is the material that makes it up - i.e. rocks. Looking at layers of stratus one can postulate what occurred during the time of each layer. However such postulations are unverified theory since there are no other recordings to substantiate or refute them. You can't mix theory and superstitions and come out with facts. Unfortunately it seems as if that is what is going on. Scientists are not paid to be neutral fact finders. They are paid to support or disprove a claim, as has been mentioned before. It's a shame isn't it?
It's like listening to the news - it depends what station you have on as to what version you'll get. There is probably a touch of truth in it, but beyond that it may finish the story so far from the truth you aren't aware you have been sucked into their version.
Many "global warming experts" have stated that methane released by herds of cows and pigs is a high contributing factor yet they do not address the the impact of the methane pools rising up from the ocean's floors nor the chimney, smokers, and volcanoes also found there.
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