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[pophead]

Er, what does any of that have to do with the topic?


And I strongly disagree with the sentiment that there is no 'junk' in our bodies. There are quite a few features/parts of our bodies that are totally useless to us, and logically, the DNA for those parts.

we don't know everything about our bodies. hope this isn't news for you.
we don't know enough to see what the appendix actually does, because I'm sure it does(or could) do something. so saying that there isn't a use for a bunch of stuff in our bodies is a blind statement.

 

[cgrabe]

the problem with this is that it doesn't fix the problem, it just takes all the problems of both sides.

Howso? The "problem" with a literal 7-day creation is that it just can't be reconciled with the evidence we have before us. Theistic evolution reconciles the differences and can still be in perfect agreement with the Bible. Where's the problem?

 

[ash]

To what 'problem' are you referring? is- if a person wants to take theistic evolution as their personal belief, why is that a problem? It's a problem if it is taught as science, and I would imagine religious people would not want it taught as doctrine, but if someone believes in both and uses theistic evolution to rectify their conflicting beliefs- more power to them. And as for your assertation that the skulls in the fossil record are from diseased individuals or have pig's teeth (I don't even know what that means)- of course the occasional misidentification happens but that's hardly a relevant arguement against evolution. And there are slight differences in present day skulls- but they are so subtle. Forensic anthropologists can make a decent guess as to the race of an individual based on their skull after considerable analysis, but you can't just look at a skull and detect these differences. It's a matter of minutia- the spacing of the eyes, angle of the cheekbones, that sort of thing. The skulls watcher posted are different species, not different races.

 

[ash]

oh and the appendix is called a vestigal organ- like our tail or wisdom teeth (although they are not technically vestigal organs, I guess). It's something we don't need anymore.

 

[125gJoe]

No DNA is useless. ....

Exactly!
To say "junkl DNA" - is to say, we don't want to further investigate the "unknown".

There is no JUNK in our design...


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[pophead]

Howso? The "problem" with a literal 7-day creation is that it just can't be reconciled with the evidence we have before us. Theistic evolution reconciles the differences and can still be in perfect agreement with the Bible. Where's the problem?

what evidence? are you refering to how old the earth is?
theistic disagrees with the Bible because the Bible is very clear that Creation took place over 6 days. (and then 1 day rest, which makes 7).

 

[cgrabe]

what evidence? are you refering to how old the earth is?
theistic disagrees with the Bible because the Bible is very clear that Creation took place over 6 days. (and then 1 day rest, which makes 7).

In short, it is not a stretch to say those days do not refer to literal 24-hour days. If you are genuinely interested, I encourage you to read through http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html with an open mind. I don't agree with every single word there, but it covers the arguements more thoroughly than I can.

 

[pophead]

To what 'problem' are you referring? is- if a person wants to take theistic evolution as their personal belief, why is that a problem? It's a problem if it is taught as science, and I would imagine religious people would not want it taught as doctrine, but if someone believes in both and uses theistic evolution to rectify their conflicting beliefs- more power to them. And as for your assertation that the skulls in the fossil record are from diseased individuals or have pig's teeth (I don't even know what that means)- of course the occasional misidentification happens but that's hardly a relevant arguement against evolution. And there are slight differences in present day skulls- but they are so subtle. Forensic anthropologists can make a decent guess as to the race of an individual based on their skull after considerable analysis, but you can't just look at a skull and detect these differences. It's a matter of minutia- the spacing of the eyes, angle of the cheekbones, that sort of thing. The skulls watcher posted are different species, not different races.

abviously there are problems, otherwise there wouldn't be a debate. why not believe in a theistic evolution? because it is a god of a persons very own making. the theistic evolution disagrees with the Bible so you can't say that it's Christian, what other god claims to have made the universe?
about the pigs tooth. a while back some scientists found a tooth that was apparently prehistoric. they dated it, and studied it. they made a picture of the kind of man they think it would have come from, and also the habitat that he lived in.
ok.... so let me see. you say that occasional misidentification happens and also that these scientists can see that the skulls were different species, not races. could they be wrong here too? even if they were different species, animals have been going extinct ever sinse they existed, so how do we know if they are some of the missing links? (because yes, the missing link is still missing)

the argument goes in circles guys. there's no end to it.

 

[pophead]

In short, it is not a stretch to say those days do not refer to literal 24-hour days. If you are genuinely interested, I encourage you to read through http://www.theistic-evolution.com/theisticevolution.html with an open mind. I don't agree with every single word there, but it covers the arguements more thoroughly than I can.

yes, he is a very typical evolutionist. claiming no conflicts between the Bible and theistic evolution. but look at Genesis, it does say DAY, not years.

 

[mogurnda]

Actually, it may serve a purpose, but not to us. Much of the "junk" DNA is leftover transposons (pieces of DNA that replicate themselves and move around the genome) and retroviruses. They don't do us any good, and may in fact do harm. Our cells have defenses against them, but in millions of years, a lot have slipped by.

There are other areas that were considered "junk," but may perform structural or regulatory functions.

There is a tremendous amount known about this stuff, you just have to know where to look.