Do fish feel pain?

Again - I didnt see the phrase "prolonged discomfort" ... all I read was that the fish exhibited a response to certain stimuli - it wasnt and IMO cant be described as negative as you described before nor discomfort as you pointed out above.

I copy and pasted that exact quote from the same article you read.
 
Again - I didnt see the phrase "prolonged discomfort" ... all I read was that the fish exhibited a response to certain stimuli - it wasnt and IMO cant be described as negative as you described before nor discomfort as you pointed out above.

And that's how you know when someone doesn't read all the way to the end. . . it's the second to last statement under the final heading of Cry Out.
 
They do, but only physically. When humans feel pain they feel it emotionally too, if you really think about it, when humans are hurt we are often depressed...
 
If a fish flicks and rubs itself then it's obviously itchy. If it can feel this then why not pain?
 
How about we assume fish DO feel pain, whether or not it is scientifically true and proven, and then we can carry on with our lives trying our best not to hurt them?

:iagree: as well

If a fish flicks and rubs itself then it's obviously itchy. If it can feel this then why not pain?

very good point!
 
Also, why do injured fish try to stay away from others picking at them? Maybe... it hurts?
 
Dwarf Puffers said:
Also, why do injured fish try to stay away from others picking at them? Maybe... it hurts?

Another good point. .. some people are so ignorant. I sometimes wonder if some people are just looking for an excuse to justify inhumane treatment.
 
First off never argue science based upon a inferior summary by some barely literate journalist. Always go directly to the published article. http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/content/e8vyfa4ndt5c4q0a/fulltext.pdf

After reading their methods and sources the conclusion they reach is completely unsupported. First they are injecting bee venom and vinegar into the fishes mouths. They then claim that the response they observe is a reaction to pain. Completely ignoring the very strong possibility that the response is due to a chemical metabolic reaction.

There is a large body of this type of work floating around that is usually disputed immediately by the scientific community (as this was). Remember just because something gets published that corresponds with preconceived notions doesn't mean that the conclusions have any basis in reality.

As to if fish feel pain, the verdict is still out but the preliminary results indicate NO.
 
So, do newborn (human) babies feel pain?

this question is off topic. its pretty obvious that newborn human babies feel pain unless you meant to say unborn. if it us unborn babies, then it depends on how developed they are. if their nervous system hasnt developed yet then i dont think so.
 
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