do fish feel pain

do fish feel pain

  • yes fish feel pain

    Votes: 23 53.5%

  • no they dont feel pain thats stupid

    Votes: 6 14.0%

  • emotionaly they do

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • phiscaly they do(sorry for wrong spelling)

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • Total voters
    43
  • Poll closed .
Originally posted by CharlyBaltimore

Since fish have no feelings and cannot feel any pain whatsoever, it must be your viewpoint that filtration and feeding are akin to changing the oil on your car and filling it up with gas. It's nice to look at, so as long as the car runs, everything's fine. When it throws a rod, so what? You can always get another one. It must be really hard (...on your pocketbook) when you lose a fish.

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Here is my feeling on that, it is not that your working to keep them happy or any other emotional aspect. Your job is to keep them from becoming stressed. As the article had said near the bottom, unhealthy conditions for the fish will trigger the release of stress hormones into its body. The stress hormones will lead to a weaker immune system, and if allowed to persist for long periods of time death.

Skeletalmachine- I must congratulate you, your the first person who would argue with me on the articles points instead of a preconcieved notion you had. The amount of replies I usually get in this debate saying "i believe they do" or things to that effect are quite suprising. You would think on an issue thats a pretty important with fish would be met with more people interested to learn more, not just a signing off on the issue.
 
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PETA gives some good tips in your first link, including: "The more space that fish have, the happier and healthier they will be. Allow a minimum of 12 square inches of water surface per inch of fish."

IMO, many people have no business owning fish, especially those who pack as many fish in a tank as they can before they start dying off, those who have minimal filtration (if any), and those who don't care enough to check out the requirements of fish before they buy them.
 
Yes, they give some helpful advice, but when they start coming up with reasons not to support the industry it is downright ridiculous. There little comments about it being entirely cruel to keep fish in tanks, or you shouldnt support the tropical fish trade because its nothing more than who can catch and breed fish the fastest are pure speculation and conjecture.
 
What if this tank is 40,000+ gallons as there are rumors of someone with a few tanks that big floating around...
 
Originally posted by slipknottin


I must congratulate you, your the first person who would argue with me on the articles points instead of a preconcieved notion you had. The amount of replies I usually get in this debate saying "i believe they do" or things to that effect are quite suprising.
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You might get more open-minded responses if you showed more of an open mind yourself. Just my opinion.
 
So keeping Doviis in tanks is cruel? I don't really think that that's true. I think that Doviis are so well-kept in their tanks that they actually have some affinity for their owners (as long as you argue that fish have emotions, you have to agree with this).

What about eels which have all the swimming space they want in a smaller tank (than what you would suggest...I'm not suggesting a really small tank, obviously)? You think that that's cruel?
 
Originally posted by CharlyBaltimore


You might get more open-minded responses if you showed more of an open mind yourself. Just my opinion.
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That was meant for skeletal machine. You havent proved to be open at all towards the subject. Very close minded.

Dont you think that at one point I believed fish experienced pain also?
 
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