Does Bio-Spira Work?

[Carlotta]

Hi everyone, I'm Carlotta and new here

A lurker by nature I have been reading this forum for some time now and I have come away with alot of interesting and helpful information for the aquarium hobbist, which I hope to become soon, and is why I've been reading here. Oddly though it's not the hobby that inspired this post but this response from H3D to Don Juan.

:troll: It is obvious you have an agenda against Marineland. The links I provided were to research done by the University of California. If you think the research was falsified then take it up with them! The reason Bio-Spira has not completely taken out the competition is because :troll: like you who have an agenda to fool others in to buying products that do not work properly!

Here's a question for you, H3D: have you ever tried using that SuperBac product to cycle your tank? If you haven't, then you have no practical experience whatsoever concerning the product, thus you are in no position to 1. say ya or nay about it, and 2. attack and accuse another person you know nothing about except for some honest feedback he's offered the discussion. You are sitting behind your puter crapping all over someone in defense of the products you like, while two other members here do have practical experience/knowledge of the SuperBac stuff, they have shared their experiences with you, yet you act as tho you are on some kind of Rovian campaign against anything that threatens your Marineland sponsored product. What, are you a stockholder, or on their payroll - a sales rep perhaps? Or maybe you're a marketing hitman paid to go shoot down any new cycling product someone mentions.

Whatever, do you think you could stop being such a pompus *** to your fellow members? It's been your less than friendly attitude that is part of the reason i've not posted before, so isn't it ironic that it was your bitter attitude toward a perfect stranger who came in here with a great attitude and an experienced opinion to share that did the trick!:dance2:

~Carlotta

 

[Mgamer20o0]

A lurker by nature I have been reading this forum for some time now and I have come away with alot of interesting and helpful information for the aquarium hobbist, which I hope to become soon, and is why I've been reading here. Oddly though it's not the hobby that inspired this post but this response from H3D to Don Juan.


Here's a question for you, H3D: have you ever tried using that SuperBac product to cycle your tank? If you haven't, then you have no practical experience whatsoever concerning the product, thus you are in no position to 1. say ya or nay about it, and 2. attack and accuse another person you know nothing about except for some honest feedback he's offered the discussion. You are sitting behind your puter crapping all over someone in defense of the products you like, while two other members here do have practical experience/knowledge of the SuperBac stuff, they have shared their experiences with you, yet you act as tho you are on some kind of Rovian campaign against anything that threatens your Marineland sponsored product. What, are you a stockholder, or on their payroll - a sales rep perhaps? Or maybe you're a marketing hitman paid to go shoot down any new cycling product someone mentions.

Whatever, do you think you could stop being such a pompus *** to your fellow members? It's been your less than friendly attitude that is part of the reason i've not posted before, so isn't it ironic that it was your bitter attitude toward a perfect stranger who came in here with a great attitude and an experienced opinion to share that did the trick!:dance2:

~Carlotta

you see just as bad. this is a whole new topic. looks like he is trying to see what other people have used and what happened. you have to come and bring stuff into this one. this is something i would know. not that i am going to use any of them.

 

[Bkman]

I recently used bio on a friends tank to see if it would work and it does well. I've also used cycle and it will help along the cycle (slowly and at much higher doses than the bottle says(fishless with ammonia is just as effective IMO))
In my personal opinion, any product like these is a waste of $, biospira working the best by far, the only that will actually fully cycle the tank, which is why it is easily alot more expensive than anything else. Just ask the LFS to give you a scoopfull of gravel, most happily will(even though have of em dont know what a proper cycle is ;-P )

 

[H3D]

A lurker by nature I have been reading this forum for some time now and I have come away with alot of interesting and helpful information for the aquarium hobbist, which I hope to become soon, and is why I've been reading here. Oddly though it's not the hobby that inspired this post but this response from H3D to Don Juan.

Hi Carlotta! :hi: I’m glad you decided to post here on AC!

Here's a question for you, H3D: have you ever tried using that SuperBac product to cycle your tank? If you haven't, then you have no practical experience whatsoever concerning the product, thus you are in no position to 1. say ya or nay about it, and 2. attack and accuse another person you know nothing about except for some honest feedback he's offered the discussion. You are sitting behind your puter crapping all over someone in defense of the products you like, while two other members here do have practical experience/knowledge of the SuperBac stuff, they have shared their experiences with you, yet you act as tho you are on some kind of Rovian campaign against anything that threatens your Marineland sponsored product. What, are you a stockholder, or on their payroll - a sales rep perhaps? Or maybe you're a marketing hitman paid to go shoot down any new cycling product someone mentions.

I have never used Superbac; actually I had never heard of it until recently. However after a little research I have found that Superbac contains the same principle ingredients as Hagen’s Cycle and API’s Stress Zyme both of which I have used before. Having used these similar products I feel that there would be absolutely no difference between them and Superbac, but I suppose I could be wrong. IMO product that contain nitrobacter such these are both a waste of money and dangerous as they do not do what they promise. It is not just my opinion that they do not work, they have been proven not to work by multiple scientists and I posted a link to research showing that this has been accepted by the scientific community. The claims for Superbac have only been supported with an advertisement. I do not work for Marineland (I wish!); I am just an advocate for keeping healthy fish while saving money in the process.

Whatever, do you think you could stop being such a pompus *** to your fellow members? It's been your less than friendly attitude that is part of the reason i've not posted before, so isn't it ironic that it was your bitter attitude toward a perfect stranger who came in here with a great attitude and an experienced opinion to share that did the trick!:dance2:

~Carlotta

I am sorry if I offended you, but my concern is always to help others keep their fish healthy while saving money at the same time. My previous post may have been a little harsh, so I have created this thread for everyone to share their experiences. I am glad you have decided to post and hope you will choose to do so in the future. Welcome to AC! :clap:

 

[jessicar613]

I have never used BioSpira, so I can't comment on it, but I'm going to add to the votes for using established gravel and filter media. I've had almost instant cycles with that. I hear great things about BioSpira, but I've seen an awful lot of threads here from people who used BioSpira and were having problems with their tank cycling. The assumption is always that they got a bad bottle, or the bacteria were no longer active. I'm not saying BioSpira doesn't work, because obviously it works for a lot of people. But I'll stick with the -free- method; it works great.

 

[jm1212]

You've used superbac? Really. What are its properties out of the bottle?

the more and more i read your posts, the more i think that you are a person that works for the people who make SuperBac. yes, i have used it. it worked for 3 days and the bacteria died and i was stuck with an even bigger mess than before. thats why i tried stress zyme (way back when in my newbie days).

we've got the info speaking against it but you insist that it works. just because it "worked" for you doesnt mean it worked for anyone else. so far, im pretty sure that i have been the only one here with a good experience with stress zyme, and i am fine with that.



look at it like this. its like a car. just because you get a Dodge that runs great for 20 years doesnt mean that i didnt get one that ran for three before i had to scrap it because it was in the shop every other day.

 

[5xevy]

I also find used media filters an excellent way to cycle a new tank. Of course, not all of us have more than one tank. I'm about to cycle my freshwater tank for the 1st time and will probably just buy some ammonia and/or throw some shrimp in there.

I've heard of people getting their media filter from their LFS, however I'd be a little wary of doing this...at least from my LFS.

 

[NeonJulie]

As you all know, I tried a cool fresh pack of Bio-Spira, and unfortunately for me, it did not do as promised. I still recommend the product, but I know I would personally never fully stock a tank before I had done a day or two of ammonia drops to be sure the package was actually good, and not a dud.

I guess I'm the only one to vote option no. 2 at the moment. Oh well. Fishless cycling still did terrific at 36 days with no established colonies. 14 would have been nicer, but well worth it.

 

[watermelon]

If Bio Spira is used properly and if it is a good batch, yea it works wonders...I used it to cycle my tank many times.

But I ran into situations where Bio Spira did not work..

 

[quadpants]

It would be easy enough to set up several empty 10 gallon tanks and plot the progress of a cycle using different products and a known amount of ammonia. After the 100th thread like this I am suprised it hasn't happened yet. I would be willing to chip in a few bucks to whoever set something like this up, it would save me and everyone else from buying worthless or gimmicky chemicals.

I have used Bio-Spira in an emergency when some expensive shrimp arrived a few days early and my tank wasn't ready. It worked just as promised. I also bought some Proquatics Bacterial Starter when I didn't know any better and it didn't do anything at all.