Evolution vs. Creation

[Matak]

Matak.........

Sorry if I came across harshly towards religion. I was raised Catholic...

Nahh. No harshness detected. If anyone was harsh, it was me. This is how good debate proceeds.

The argument is circular because the the argument is based on thye belief in the infallibility of the scriptures.

I am saying that I believe the scriptures because of my faith, which is a terminal, foundational point in my argument. In the same way that I can tell you that I know my wife because I talked to her this morning, I can tell you that I know my my saviour because I talked with Him this morning. And it wasn't a one way conversation.

As I mentioned elsewhere, the very evidence that is used to support evolution is used by creation scientists to support our views.

Science builds upon "truths" that have been tested over time and seem to be able to hold their own weight. Creationism looks to the bible and it's presumed divine orgins for validation, so from an a-religious point of view, it's justification is circular.

Evolutionary science looks at 'evidence' to support its theory, the same as creational science does. Don't confuse the assumptions made by scientists for truths. Remember, it is the theory of evolution.

It's really amazing that any of us try to debate the two, considering the methodology of both camps...........it's like trying to speak latin with someone who only speaks tagalog.

I agree.

Again, my intention was never to offend. Each of us finds our own peace in our own way, so..................

peace be with all of you.

Non taken. Here again is some light creation reading:
Why Is Abiogenesis Impossible?

Watcher: I really am late & have to go.. Later though.

 

[Dale W.]

So what did come first? the chicken, or the egg?

Even though this thread is going fairly smooth with the religion thing and the fact that you guys are discussing it rather than preeching (apreciated), I just wanted to remind you that this threads topic was/is "Evolution vs. Creation". I understand that this thread can be interesting to many people but I dont want people that are reading this for the topic title to get discouraged as it has strayed.

Not sure what to do here. :hang:

 

[woodyblueeyes]

So what did come first? the chicken, or the egg?

The chicken.

 

[mishi8]

So what did come first? the chicken, or the egg?

Even though this thread is going fairly smooth with the religion thing and the fact that you guys are discussing it rather than preeching (apreciated), I just wanted to remind you that this threads topic was/is "Evolution vs. Creation". I understand that this thread can be interesting to many people but I dont want people that are reading this for the topic title to get discouraged as it has strayed.

Not sure what to do here. :hang:

Personally, even though things are "going fairly smooth," I think it's becoming too much a religious discussion, rather than a discussion of the original topic. If your going to have a line, it has to be drawn somewhere.

BTW it wasn't a chicken or egg, it really all started with the primordial soup. :

 

[saltyc]

yeah-egg drop soup!

 

[Leopardess]

Smooth or not it's not working.

 

[ash]

yeah, it has strayed far from where it started and while there are no real personal attacks, etc. I can see where someone new to the board could be really offended by some of what is taking place.

 

[Watcher74]

Maybe we should shut this sucker down.

Dale, the egg came first.

There were eggs around for hundreds of millions of years before the first chicken came around.

 

[Watcher74]

Well, if we should stick to only the Topic Creation Vs. Evolution then I have a question about The Christian Creation Theory.

Adam & Eve only had 3 children that I am aware of.

Cain, Able, & Seth.

And their was some line in Genisis that said something like, "They saw the women of Earth and they were good." I probably mangled that one.

Anyhoo, where did the wives for Cain and Seth come from?

 

[Mako]

Um, Genesis isn't a story about every single thing that happened in the first decade. Cain obviously married one of his sisters. Patristic societies didn't take the birth of a daughter the same way as the birth of a son, and it wasn't recorded the way Cain and Abel was. That's also why there are quite few women listed in the endless genealogies in the Bible. The Bible doesnt' tell us that Jesus went to the potty, but I'm pretty sure He did from time to time. It's not supposed to be a 100% history, there are some things that the writers, and God for that matter, expect a little common sense in reading.