I have purigen which will reduce ammonia production from decaying organics but it does not take care of the main problem. My destroyed biofilter. I pretty much have to recycle this tank from scratch and with a full fish load, this is a very difficult thing to do. With ammonia as high as it is, imagine what the Nitrites will do when they start to climb.
Fish Day From Hell
- Thread starter rrkss
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I know you've already thought of this but could you use salt to help with the nitrite increase when it occurs? If so, how much should be used per gallon?
Mark
Mark
How about running diy co2 to bring down the ph and render the ammonia to a less toxic form? I might also use ammo lock or something.
You are in for a real treat recycling a tank with a full load of fish. I don't envy you at all - not to mention the fish. I think I would take advantage of all the stuff out there, ammo locks, polyfilters... etc and add bio spira...
Is there anyone near you who could supply any well seeded gravel or a used filter?
Hoping for best for you..
Cathy
You are in for a real treat recycling a tank with a full load of fish. I don't envy you at all - not to mention the fish. I think I would take advantage of all the stuff out there, ammo locks, polyfilters... etc and add bio spira...
Is there anyone near you who could supply any well seeded gravel or a used filter?
Hoping for best for you..
Cathy
The salt dosage for Nitrites is 1 teaspoon per gallon. I've dosed the tank with bio-spira and am using ammo-lock to bind up the ammonia. I will be doing a 90% waterchange tonight to bring ammonia down and I seed everday with bacteria from my other tanks.
Cathy G said:
I did do that but have greatly increased surface disturbance (air stone, cansiter outlet pointing up) since the fish have swollen gills and a reduced ability to get oxygen out of the water. The ammonia binders are what are keeping the fish alive. Without them I would be restocking my tank with new fish after fishless cycling it.
Son of a *****! I have also have a 2L bottle that says 5ml!
Thank you, rrkss, for writing to them about this. Bloody hell! I'm glad I just got this yesterday and have only used it to dose once last night. That tank looks fine, but I'm keeping my eye on things.
Geez louise! I'm going to write them a nasty email. They should have recalled the product or something.
Roan
Edit: I just remembered. I didn't use the cap to dose. I used a measuring cup instead and measured out exactly 20mls. Yah, that's about 2 capfuls now that I look at it.
Thank you, rrkss, for writing to them about this. Bloody hell! I'm glad I just got this yesterday and have only used it to dose once last night. That tank looks fine, but I'm keeping my eye on things.
Geez louise! I'm going to write them a nasty email. They should have recalled the product or something.
Roan
Edit: I just remembered. I didn't use the cap to dose. I used a measuring cup instead and measured out exactly 20mls. Yah, that's about 2 capfuls now that I look at it.
Yah, very lucky. I went over my charts and realized that I just didn't dose the 75g. I dosed ALL my rainbow tanks. The only reason why I used the measuring glass for them all was because it was already in my hand. Otherwise, I would have used the cap.
Freaking lucky. Man, do you have any idea how many $$$ in fish I could have lost with this crap? Geez, my baby wanams were $200 and that's just one school of fish! Now I'm mad! You should be mad! We should all be mad!
I'm sending a very verbose and semi-nasty email to Seachem this weekend. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I have no damages, but I can still rip them a new a-hole for what COULD have happened to me and what DID happen to you.
Off on a bender
Roan
Freaking lucky. Man, do you have any idea how many $$$ in fish I could have lost with this crap? Geez, my baby wanams were $200 and that's just one school of fish! Now I'm mad! You should be mad! We should all be mad!
I'm sending a very verbose and semi-nasty email to Seachem this weekend. Unfortunately, or fortunately, I have no damages, but I can still rip them a new a-hole for what COULD have happened to me and what DID happen to you.
Off on a bender
Roan
I've also got a 2L bottle of Excel and always thought the cap looked kind of big compared to the 500ml bottles. I use a 5ml dropper for dosing that stuff (and my micros) anyway.
Still, I've heard about a lot of plant people who deliberately overdose in an effort to combat BBA. Maybe they are playing with fire. It would be interesting to set up a 10g and seed it with a live filter, then feed it ammonia to geep it going. After a week or so, start dosing Excel and see what it takes to kill off the bacteria.
Still, I've heard about a lot of plant people who deliberately overdose in an effort to combat BBA. Maybe they are playing with fire. It would be interesting to set up a 10g and seed it with a live filter, then feed it ammonia to geep it going. After a week or so, start dosing Excel and see what it takes to kill off the bacteria.
Just measured the 2L cap with a syringe.............
10 ml
So I'm now convinced that the Excel was the fault of my minicycle. And the reason the Vals died off and probably why anachris dies also. Its the intial dosing that your "supposed" to do after each water change,1 capful for every 10 gallons then daily 1 cap for every 50 gallons.
So according to the directions on the bottle in my 75 I would have put:
7 caps for initial dose which is 70 ml then daily would be 15 ml. A weekly total of 160 ml.
If the directions were correct it would be initial dose 35 ml and daily 5 ml for a total of 65 ml.
Automatically we're ODing the plants almost 3 to 1.
Since the minicycle I've actually forgone the initial dose and just dosed 1.5 capfuls a day. Which would be 105 ml weekly. Still overdosing but not noticing anything bad.
10 ml
So I'm now convinced that the Excel was the fault of my minicycle. And the reason the Vals died off and probably why anachris dies also. Its the intial dosing that your "supposed" to do after each water change,1 capful for every 10 gallons then daily 1 cap for every 50 gallons.
So according to the directions on the bottle in my 75 I would have put:
7 caps for initial dose which is 70 ml then daily would be 15 ml. A weekly total of 160 ml.
If the directions were correct it would be initial dose 35 ml and daily 5 ml for a total of 65 ml.
Automatically we're ODing the plants almost 3 to 1.
Since the minicycle I've actually forgone the initial dose and just dosed 1.5 capfuls a day. Which would be 105 ml weekly. Still overdosing but not noticing anything bad.
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