Freshwater cycling

I noticed when I did one of those test strips it said my dissolved minerals were high. Is there a way to fix the water thats already in tere or should I just start using filtered water in my changes
 
Cycle with or with out lights on, I've read in several places to keep them on, but a few sites mention to keep the tank dark?
 
Thank you for the article. It did a good job explaining how to go about cycling. Sadly I am doing fish in cycling due to the fact I learned of it after I purchased a few fish. I wanted to know what your opinion was on products like nutrafin cycle and "instant" cycle products. I used one because the person at the store recommended it. I was very skeptical. Face it, nothing is instant, but he was very knowledgable. I am testing my tank twice a day in hopes to preserve the three fish I have, as well as to see if the product is actually working. To be fair to the product, it does suggest to use and put the fish in. It is actually recommends a three day process, but still.

If I succeed, my next tank I will use the bio-logical filter media method. After reading this, I am actually very anxious to try that method and personally see how the different level change. Thank you for the post.
 
I am "iffy" on those products, though some folks say they have luck with them. Bio Spira or Doc Tims seem to have the best success. I prefer water changes and keeping ammonia/nitrites under .25 when stuck doing a fishy cycle.
 
.....I wanted to know what your opinion was on products like nutrafin cycle and "instant" cycle products. I used one because the person at the store recommended it.......

Instant cycle products have been on the market for years now. I, as most fish keepers who lived thru them back in the 90's, have been leery of them, they did not always work. However, I recently tried Seachems Stability on my 125g, after reading this thread on MFK:

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...daily-perams-pics)/page23&highlight=STABILITY

I stocked the tank with fish I had "rescued" from a friend (the telephone call went something like "come get them or I'm flushing them") and some dithers of my own. I also moderately planted the tank. Sump and canister were new, I DID NOT seed from my other tanks. I followed the instructions to a T, and have to admit, it worked, beautifully, my tank was fully cycled in 2 weeks. (Skeptical, I did wait another week to start adding the final fish stock to this tank).

New products come and go all the time in this hobby, this one seems to work. At 10$ a bottle, I will def continue setting up new tanks using Stability.
 
Okay please remove this sticky as the initial cycling information is so wrong it should be banned and made illegal. You NEVER cycle a tank without fish for ANY REASONS. Heres why:

1st : When your cycling a tank you are actually cycling your filter. Seeing as there is 0 ammonia in any water your going to use you'll never cycle the filter as the bacteria colony needed for the bio system needs ammonia to even begin.
2nd : Leaving the tank up for a week or 2 does nothing to create a bacteria colony in a system that has no ammonia from wastes and so completes the nitrogen cycle and then sits there doing nothing.
3rd : The only way you can begin getting that filter cycled is to add fish and get some ammonia from there waste to get the system going. Not many to start in a 10 gal 2 or 3 is fine.

These old myths about cycling need to be thrown away as the only possible way of getting a system going is with fish. Even after 2 weeks or more your filter will have colony whatsoever and the fish added will still go thru the same break in period. You need Ammonia from waste to get the bacteria needed.
 
:rofl: I think the hundreds of people who have accomplished a fish-less cycle would tend to disagree with that last section...

Where in Bob's article does he ever allude to just letting a tank sit? I think you forgot to read the part(s) where it specifically says:

(2) Fishless Cycling

Just as it sounds, you can establish the cycling environment without any fish. This method does not pose any threat to fish, establishes a large bacteria colony allowing full stocking upon completion and gives you time to decide on what fish you want.

When establishing a tank with this method, you will use a source of ammonia to initiate the nitrogen cycle. After your tank is set up, add water and treat for chlorine/chloramines. Your filtering systems and heaters should be in place and operating to your satisfaction.

Add ammonia to bring the tank to a concentration of 5 ppm. The amount you add will vary with the size tank you have. Do not be in a rush. Add small amounts and test, repeating as necessary. If you get it too high, you can drain and refill.

Now the hurry up and wait part happens. Every two days, test your ammonia level in the tank. When the ammonia levels start dropping, add additional ammonia as required to keep the ammonia at 3-4 ppm, start daily testing and test for ammonia and nitrites. Nitrites should be developing as ammonia goes away. This first stage could take 1-3 weeks.

When you see the test results showing Nitrites, start maintaining your ammonia at the 2-3 ppm range. The nitrites increasing reflect you are in to the second stage. Continue daily testing for ammonia and maintain the tank in the 3 ppm range. You will see nitrites climb so high they will be off the scale for a reading. This will continue for one to two weeks and it will seem the nitrites are never going to go away.

There will be a day where you test and the nitrites have completely disappeared, thus, the bacteria that convert them to nitrates have established themselves. When you see this drop to zero on nitrites, dose ammonia in the tank to about 5 ppm, and wait 24 hours. If at the end of that period, ammonia and nitrites are zero, your cycle has been established. Test for nitrates, and do a 75-90% water change. Pull your water down to 20 ppm nitrates and add the fish! If you have to wait to get your fish, keep the cycle established by dosing more ammonia, but you may have to do another water change before adding your fish.

YOU are the one who has outdated information on fish cycling. A fish cycle is NEVER a necessary way to cycle a tank unless you mistakenly bought the fish before cycling a tank, which is hardly a thing an experienced aquarist should do...
 
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