Garlic treatment

[ghost_shrimp]

I would say that since there are exceptions to every claim, we should never claim absolutes of course. However, garlic has been known to have healing properties and cigarettes not, evidenced in the billions of dollars in lawsuits won against tobacco companies vs the ones won against garlic.

Garlic at best helps you, at worst does nothing but foul up your breath.
Cigarettes at best does nothing save blacken your lungs, at worst kills you and those around you.

I would say your comparison holds no water.

Garlic has been said to have beneficial properties for humans, I haven't seen any definitive claims for fish. Obviously, humans and fish have very different physical makeups, so I don't think you can assume what is good for you and me will automatically be good for your fish. Getting lots of fresh, clean air will leave me heathier and happier than living underwater. I think its quite the opposite for fish.

 

[jennfier]

Garlic has been said to have beneficial properties for humans, I haven't seen any definitive claims for fish.

Yes, that is why I'd like to know from those who have tried giving it to fish if it works and if it does, for how long it's given. I don't know if it's harmful to fish long term or not but I have given them garlic a few times with no ill effect. Just wondering if it works against internal parasites and as a good QT practice.

 

[jennfier]

Getting lots of fresh, clean air will leave me heathier and happier than living underwater. I think its quite the opposite for fish.

Perhaps not. Here's a kind fish, unknown species, that likes being on rocks a lot. This particular rock was covered with these little guys. They'd flip onto the rock, stay a long while, flip back into the ocean and then back again. Don't know why. This was on Redang Island. :huh:

and check this fish out.

 

[liv2padl]

Perhaps, he could have lived to 145

that might have been nice.

just curious as to why you tagged chinese to the guy

cuz i misread the post and thought it said he was chinese, ... now i reread it, it says he practiced chinese medicine.

I know you're trying to ridicule the blind faith in garlic

not really. i've read those studies you linked to. i'm just trying to point out that "blind faith" is not science. perhaps it's the scientist in me (have been a research scientist for 30 years) that makes me question what i read. many "scientifically documented studies" turn out to be poorly designed studies that have little actual scientific significance. if you read the summaries of those 'studies' they conclude that garlic "may" do this and "may" do that and in fact it well may. but i think the question still begs asking. having faith is not a bad thing. having blind faith on the other hand, can be.

 

[jennfier]

While garlic "may do all these miraculous wonders for you", cigarettes on the other hand, "may do all these horrible life-threatening things to you". I'll stick with garlic, thank you very much.

Mr Scientist, I'm not into blind faith much either. It's just that if you grew up having something drummed into you, that tends to become gospel. Since I haven't heard or read anything to the contrary about garlic, I've yet to reform my opinion of it, that's all. As you scientist, I'm sure you know that with just blind faith, even a placebo could help. Of course, this wouldn't work on a fish. Only the self.
Hehe. Are we trying to see who gets the last word ? :dance2: Look at my avatar and tremble into submission !

 

[liv2padl]

ok, i'm trembling ... you win. please post the last word and i will not respond. nope, not gonna do it. and you can take that to the bank. really, i'm not kidding.

 

[jennfier]

KO !

 

[Astro]

So anyway - everyone who tried garlic with fishies has had good results? I haven't found garlic x-treme in any of the local pet stores, so I can just crush a clove of garlic in a garlic press and throw that in the tank for the fish?

People seem to say its safe as long as you don't add too much - how much is too much?

 

[jennfier]

I crush a clove in a garlic press a few times over, mixed with a little bit of water then strain. Put some flakes, frozen brine shrimp or bloodworms in the juice to soak a few mins before giving to the fish. My fish avoid or spit out the garlic bits but will eat the soaked food. The prep gets a bit tedious over time and I'm just wonderng about Seachem's garlic guard (bigalsonline.com).

I haven't seen anything good or bad come out of this so still experimenting.

 

[Cathy G]

I haven't noticed any difference using garlic or not using it. However, instead of paying a fortun for garlic extreme, why not try the garlic juice from the grocery store? It is in the spice section. I used to use fresh garlic and press out the cloves, then soak the fish food in the extract, but this is tedious. Now I use this extract if I am using garlic at all...
Cathy