Kansas proves how primitive we are...

To say that evolution is fact, one has to believe in something that has not been witnessed nor reproduced.

Gee that sounds alot like the deffinition of faith.
Marriam Webster Online Dictionary
Faith
section 2b
(1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Heb 11.1

Darwin observed the microevolution of the finches of the Galapagos Islands. That type of evolution I take as fact, no faith needed. Macroevolution crosses the line from science to...

The further this goes more use of apeal to authority is used to justify Evolution. I'm just saying I don't care for the fallacy. I already know that my own fallacy beliefs arn't to be discussed here.
 
Personally, I believe in Creation by a higher power. I believe God created myself, this planet, all the stars and everything in between. My child will be taught about Adam and Eve, and about having faith in a higher power. Sure, the atheistic meatheads on this board will call that "primitive", but frankly, I say they can bite me... This garbage thread is exactly why my child will attend a private Christian school.

EDIT: Snakeice, your last statement is part of the reason I don't come here anymore. As long as it bashes people of faith, it's fine and dandy. But when someone speaks in favor of faith, the clamps come down and the thread goes away.
 
Last edited:
so it stands as thus, two separate discussions: One, what science is; Two, what Evolution and Inteligent design isn't.

This thread started with a title that made reference to Evolution, and a post body that refered to Inteligent design.

A discussion of what science is is acceptable here, But the subject broached to begin with flirts with beliefs and religion.
 
IMO..the educational system in this country has the obligation to present scientific theories and fact...even if they are ones that aren't popular.

It is up to people who choose to do so to apply religious principles to it in the context of their personal life and church. That's what they mean by seperation of church and state.
 
Corax. Its the same problem in the public schools. Separation of church and state restricts the teaching of religion, but in no way restricts the science that goes against religious beleifs. I can agree we have the same problem here where a particular science can be discussed, without the oppinions of the other side. (Up till recently, this thread was not going too bad, and I can respect that the mods allowed it to stay open. Since they have, I will give my input, but I usually try to stay out of these threads). Those are the rules, we can ignore these threads, or we can go to another forum to talk religion. We can PM folks with our thoughts and remain cool and collected in our discussions.
For the record, I spoke to my youth leader about this when we were learning evolution in highschool. He said it was fine to study it. To learn. There are many things science cannot explain, and there are many parts of religion that should not be taken litterally. That is to say, mabay adam EVOLVED from dust.(or that the translation over the years lost something along the way.)
 
macroevolution has been observed as well.

For instance, their is a fish species in the aquarium trade that has never existed in the wild.
 
"mabay adam EVOLVED from dust"

That's kind of my personal take on it. I believe evolution is guided by a higher power, it is a means to an end, a tool. I don't think God physically walked up to a pile of dust and said "let's build a guy!", raked it up and boom, there was Adam..

We can indeed ignore these kinds of threads, but when I see a bunch of Godless bookworms doing a backdoor slam on religion, I'll speak up. I'm "primitive" because I believe there is more to my existance than the flesh I use to type these words and the eyes I use to read yours? Yeah, I'm really gonna let that kinda crap slide... NOT..

I say, bravo Kansas! May more states follow your brilliant lead..

"macroevolution has been observed as well.

For instance, their is a fish species in the aquarium trade that has never existed in the wild. "

That isn't evolution Slip.. That's selective breeding or MAYBE genetic engineering.. The natural process had nothing to do with that frankenfish...
 
The most interesting and thought provoking comment I've heard about evolution is if there is evolution, why do we still have monkeys...I'm pretty openminded about the whole thing and that made me think.

I'm not particularly in the mood to drag out what I believe here...again. If you really want to know..you can search old threads and find out.

This topic has been done here and always ends up with people getting mad at each other... stomping off mad... calling each other names... threads getting locked... people calling moderators things.... people getting warned.... threads similar to this getting locked... people getting mad... you know, same old thing.
 
I agree, the rules of this place clearly state that threads of this type are NOT allowed. What pisses me off though, is that a thread that dogs religion and faith can stay, but one that promotes them doesn't stand a chance. Some atheistic bookworm can call people of faith "primitive", yet the thread stays. I'll get yelled at for calling him an atheistic bookworm though =)
 
Well, I can think of an observation that is always used to "prove" evolution......and that's the one where a certain type of birds on an island developed longer beaks during a drought period.....because the birds with the longer beaks were the ones who survived the best (the difference in length is microscopic, but that doesn't matter)...anyway, it had something to do with what they were eating during that time.....longer beaks were more effective....

Anyway....one of the things they always "forget" to mention is......that after the drought ended..............."The birds beaks went right back to the original length !!" Funny, how they leave that out.....

If evolution were true, you would be able to selectively breed an animal into something else...and have it remain that something else.......ever hear of that happening ?? They can't even do that with fruitflies and they go through zillions of generations in weeks..(that's why they're used for these things).........they have never been able to breed a fruitfly into something other than....a fruitfly....

There are adaptions......that is not evolution....an animal can Adapt features to help it through difficult times or changing environments...such as those birds........but that is in no way something becoming something else.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
AquariaCentral.com
Top Bottom