Low Tech or Semi-High tech?

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I've been making some plans for a planted 55 gallon, but I'm missing a few bits of information, and I'm also just a little indecisive.

I've got a 18" tall 55 with peacock cichlids and a sand substrate. In it are about seven good sized rocks that I plan (if needed after I'm finished) to make caves out of. I've also got a piece of driftwood that I intend to tie plants onto (Java fern, Java moss, maybe anubias nana). As of this moment I have no plants in the tank, but I have four small Java ferns in a 10 gallon that I want to move over.

I have two plans that I could go through with:

1. I hang a shop light with two T8 32 watt 6500K bulbs (a total of 64 watts) and an excellent reflector, and tie Java fern and moss to the driftwood. Also, there would be Java fern in some rock formations and on top of some caves, and depending on how well the anubias does, I would put some nana there, too. I would not add fertilizers, since there really wouldn't be enough light to do much good with them, and they would just grow a ton of algae.

2. I would use a shop light with four of the same bulbs (a total of 128 watts). This would allow me a wider variety of plants to choose from, since I wouldn't be restricted to low light. I heard that you can put potting soil in a tank as a substrate. I don't know exactly what kind I would use, but I would replace the sand, or at least most of it, with this. That would add nutrients to the water, and I could also plant rooting plants like Valls in there. Because of the higher levels of nutrients and light, the plants would grow much faster and healthier. Again, I would have caves and driftwood in the tank as well. I would not add fertilizer or Co2.

I'm sure I goofed something up with my plans, since they are my first attempt at a planted tank, but that's why I ask you guys! Any input is appreciated.

P.S. I know that planted African cichlid tanks are not the norm, but I think they would look rather nice. Might as well try it.
 
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No matter what I'd dose some fert's occasionally. You can get rooted plants to grow fine in sand I have val's among others growing in it under t5's, although not sure how that would work with african's no experience with them.
 
with all the plants you want its not as big a deal with high tech. anubias are slow growers no matter what, other than through co2. higher lights mean you have to up the anti with all the ferts co2 included i say the first is your best choice and using ferts in that is ok most of the plants you want are water column feeders. just dont use ferts that have a nitrogen or phosphate source and you will be ok on the algae.
 
If I decide to go with the first one, will the plants grow alright with the light I have? I know they're low light plants to begin with, but I want to make sure they actually do okay.

Also, could you recommend some good fertilizers? I don't really know what to look for.
 
Will the Valls grow in this light? Or will they just live?
 
There are certainly plants you can get away with using in an African tank...but IMHO it's not worth investing in any high tech-like equipment.

The first option would be plenty fine for Vals. IME they can grow well in lower lighting. I probably would add some liquid ferts here and there.

I wouldn't use potting soil at all in this type of tank. Any digging and the soil would be all over the bottom and some pieces would float.
 
I've low light and higher end medium light honestly I think my Vals in the lower light grow better.
 
The first option would be plenty fine for Vals. IME they can grow well in lower lighting. I probably would add some liquid ferts here and there.

Great, thank you! But I've never used fertilizer before; could you give me an idea of what to dose and when? I would really appreciate it.
 
I've low light and higher end medium light honestly I think my Vals in the lower light grow better.

That's odd. Everywhere I've looked said that Valls liked medium range. I guess mine would do okay if I added ferts.

Alright, low tech it is! Maybe I could use the Valls as a background behind the driftwood and caves... Getting excited already!

Thanks guys!
 
I have had a similar experience. I had 20w of T8 lighting over a 30 gallon and have yet to get better results from Vals. It's weird...

In low tech setups I've done the occasional flourish comp/excel doses. Nothing all that organized so it's hard to give an exact recommendation. Vals can be touchy with excel so I never used the full dosages.
 
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