Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[bethkira2000]

Thank you HN I hve said the same thing and everyone of course thinks I did it. But I am INNOCENT dang it.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Still pleading the weak night one stuff huh Mad? Why'd you wait? Why didn't you feel so strongly about this three days ago?


Folks- I don't care if you believe me or not. At this point, I'll be happy to have this game over with so another can start up. I do want to ask the innocents one thing... Why will no one look at Mad? He is directing the action to his own liking.

The only one close that I consider evil is Charlie. The cases on Beth are there, but they've been fed by the evils just the same as LG and Niko.

I retract my vote to lynch Jpappy and vote to lynch Charlie.

We have to get an evil tonight for the game to continue folks!

HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.

 

[johnlarson66]

sorry Mad but it looks like I am going down. see ya in the next game

Beth, why are you saying sorry to Mad?

 

[johnlarson66]

Originally Posted by Madcrawdad
HN, in previous posts and this one now, you're claiming that you're a clueless townie who has been played. C'mon, you jumped headfirst (and hard) onto everyone you've lynched so don't start the 'I've been played!' It's nonsense. You are scum....

Care to try to explain again why your role PM is different that the rest of the innocent's again? Why did your's say 'elf'.... The only elves even mentioned in the rules were the evil elves. Townies were called innocents... Does anyone else want to claim that their PM said 'Santa-helping elf'?

I didn't send it, Rb did so I'm not sure why it was worded differently from others. In fact, that's a good point.

I would like to protest and have the game called a draw due to inconsistent PMs.

Fact of the matter is it did, I'm not scum but I think you are.

How do you feel about calling it a draw Mad? Seems perfectly fair to me.

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

 

[Rbishop]

thru post #1032.....

to lynch....

hook (2) cs mad

beth (3) grins jl66 blue

cs (3) DD jpap hook

DD (2) gup ice

blue (1) beth

all have voted.....

about 2 hours until nightfall....

 

[IceH2O]

I am posting this because well it seemed to jump out at me. This is by IceH20 used in a quote by HN:
A list consisting of these players:
NIko
Charlie
Coler
Beth
and DD
Now I know myself, but Niko and Coler were both innocent I think even though she made that email mistake that DD is innocent, Charlie has still not done anything to make me think that he is evil.
See my point yet? I know Charlie knows his postion and that DD knows her postion so any thoughts?

Beth thats the only list I had and was from days ago. Yes I've been wrong a couple of times as has most of the town. You think DD is innocent but you forget she was the one that jumped onto Niko the very 1st day. Then the copy and pasted email. I think she wanted to make a post but wanted to make sure everyone on her team was okay with what she was going to say. Once she got the okay she accidentally copied to much and pasted it.

Yes I know it looks scummy, but my mom eventually kicked me off the computer. So I have narrowed my list down to Chas and DD trying to figure out which one is the Grinch. I am still having a hard time finding beth as Grinch, jl, so that is why I do not want to vote her tonight...anyways, I am really struggling here.

They have been at each other and at this point I really cannot tell who is telling the truth. DD has the whole email thing going for her (well really, against her) yet Chas really put himself on my radar when he went after grins..."kicking down doors" is one thing but I dont know...also, been thinking about the whole DD thing and I do not think she would need to copy an email from someone else, especially if she was the Grinch. Just seems to much to risk at a time like this. So with that...

I vote to lynch Charlie

Same thing as I just posted to Beth that you need to look at about the email Jpap. We all know DD doesn't need coaching but a lot of the time the evils go in with a plan. This game they have controlled us from the start. I think she wanted to clear the post with the others.

HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.

I agree being all over the place doesn't help us at all.



We only have 6 innocents vs 5 evils.

If they lynch innocent and hit innocent its game over.

What is even worse is that Blitzen happens tonight.

We need to lynch an evil (6-4) and hope that Blitzen hits an innocent which would make it (5-4) and hope they hit one of their own 5-3. If they hit an innocent then its 4-4.

If we lynch an evil(6-4) and Blitzen hits an evil (5-5) and they hit an innocent its (5-4 evils) .



Beths posts are all over the place. Her suspicions are only on those who have called her out. She followed a player she thought was evil onto another player. I don't think she is the grinch though.

I still feel that DD is our best bet at Grinch.

Her post that she knows HN is innocent is more disturbing knowing that Mad claims to be one of the communicating innocent left. So she was communicating with evils.

Also did anyone notice that DD wasn't on me till HN mentioned me? And how she has been trying to twist my posts?

I'm not as sure that HN is evil as I am of DD. HN has had his moments that made me think he was but I also think that DD could be taking advantage of his aggressiveness.

 

[johnlarson66]

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

I should not say nothing like, there is just a few sentences added in bold.

I think we should have a "rule" no editing quotes unless it is to bold or change the color or something, but no adding words.

I thought Mad was wanting to call the game, but I guess it is HN?

 

[Hooked Newbie]

HN, many things need to happen to continue this game.... Blitzen comes into play tonight, so the town is already down an innocent... even if the town lynches scum, an innocent will be lost... the Grinch needs to accidentally hit scum, etc. etc. for the town to win. The UDs really killed us this game.

As far as the PM being a weak argument, I don't think so. I'm in a pretty unique position. Because the town is in dire shape, and I will likely be hit tonight anyway, I'll let you in on a secret. I was the innocent who was allowed to communicate w/ the other 3 after the game began. Plantling, Andi, another innocent, and myself were the communicators. Being a plain vanilla townie, my PM was slightly different than theirs, but none of them said 'elf'... Strange, don't you think, you helpful little elf?

As far as waiting on it, strictly because it may not be strong enough to stand alone, but after watching you for 2 days it makes sense.

Cool if that's true. BUT... you will see. It said EXACTLY what I've stated it said and I am not evil.

 

[Hooked Newbie]

When I click the source of the top quote that HN quoted, it looks nothing like the quote that is posted. HN why have you altered the quote?

I removed the comments that weren't directed to me. You must be evil, you're finally here.... to gloat?

 

[IceH2O]

I really thought that DD would try to pull the Santa card, all evils try as a last gasp try to confuse the town especially when being looked at and want to lynch their suspect.

So I was thinking about it and decided to play what if...


Lets go with that DD is Santa.

She was all over Niko Day 1. Day 2 she changed her mind and made Charlie her number 1 suspect while keeping the suspicion on Niko. Does that mean even though Niko was her highest suspect that she decided instead to investigate Charlie based on him not role playing with her? Wouldn't you investigate your top suspect? I don't believe she made any investigations at all.

Night 2 she decides to jump on me AFTER HN names me in a post. Then claims HN is innocent. Did she investigate HN? Even if HN is innocent what about that makes me evil? Why jump me except I'm also a very vocal player. HN also named other players but DD wouldn't have the posts on them to pull up a case. She still hasn't pulled up a case on me either though.

I believe DD is Grinch, she knew Niko wasn't on her team and went to lynch him, once the ball got rolling and others took over she switched to another innocent. I believe she investigated me last night, to make sure i wasn't a disconnected elf, and found me innocent and coupled with HNs aggressive nature is using that as a springboard all the while staying on Charlie to not look like she is jumping to another innocent,since she has already been called on doing it.

Remember the Grinch has only gotten 1 investigation so far, nights 2 3 and 4 according to the rules.