Mafia #20 - Pirates of the Carribean the Play

I focused on all posts since I went to bed. I didn't include HN's vote on Beth because it happened before then, and I completely forgot about it. I must agree, he needs to be added to the list.

And I've playfully harrassed Beth as well, before I realized everyone was and that I may have been caught up in the "train".

My vote will probably change again...we have another day before the day is over...and I'm sure someone will massively slip. Don't consider my vote on you final...just one of the best I have at this short time in the game. As I said, I can't predict when my connection will fail, or when our comms will be blackedout...and I want to keep it as accurate as possible in the case I do lose my ability to post for a day or two.
 
Hyped about having some pirate activity. I'm rather bored.

Oh, I see. Well, I can't give you any "pirate" activity, but will be in and out as I am reviewing threads and painting the dang livingroom and dining room ceilings....:silly:

Beth seems to have gone MIA....

And I am a bit surprised not to have seen more from mee-mee...

Lady G's play is a lot, and I mean a lot, like last game...interesting to me...

Things should spice up a bit today, as we should expect most folks to have an initial vote in by night fall (EST) so things can be discussed a bit and see where their thoughts are.
 
Alright, here's my quick notes from my overnight analysis without quotes:


Here's what I think is going on, and what I was talking about earlier: All the pirates can talk, and I suspected the'd start a train and hope that the 5-7 of them could pull together enough opinion to make the rest of us suspect their accused and join them to "plank" an innocent, or a sacrifice. Right now they're not voting, but there is a bandwagon of accusations on one player particularly...A good majority of the players seem to be going after Beth.

I don't think everone going after Beth is a pirate, nor can I say if the accusations are based on Beth slipping about being a pirate, or just a case being made against an innocent...but I believe the bandwagon is the act of pirates. So far the players on the bandwagon are: JL, Madcrawdad, DD, then LG. I don't know if they're all pirates, but I strongly suspect from their actions that most of them are.

So, a random vote from the list, I vote to make Madcrawdad walk the plank

I agree somewhat. I myself am not convinced Beth is a pirate. I think someone saw the opportunity to use her avatar change as a reason to chase her down.
I questioned her on it but seriously,would you think that because she was sitting next to a small creek that would clue us into her being a Pirate?
I just wanted to see how many people jumped onto the avatar train. I think we have a few good possibilities for votes there.



This is becoming fun. Woo hoo!!!:nilly:


Be more fun if you posted thoughts on the game and helped us get rid of the pirates or gave yourself away as one.


LChap, as the game goes on, you may see me 'hassle' many folks who I don't immediately vote for (or vote for at all, for that matter). Part of the game consists of shaking bushes and see what runs out... Some players react strongly when 'pushed' a little, and those reactions may be telling (regarding their scumminess or innocence).

As far as a 'train' on Beth, I think there might only be Hooked Newbie's vote on her at the moment, which doesn't constitute much of a train. A couple of interesting points, though, is that you don't include HN on the Beth train, and that you reiterate many of the points others have mentioned when questioning Beth, yet you don't consider yourself on the Beth train.


See I have a problem with this train of thought.

Why does a train have to consist of votes. Its just as easy and probably more effective to have a thought train on a person. The more people that think it then the more people that will be willing to vote that way, especially with the number of sheep this game has had in the past. If you get enough sheep to end up voting for your person you don't even need to put a vote there. You could wait and say well they have enough votes I'm going to spotlight so and so for the next day.

I'll be around for the next hour or so then off to a friends for football Sunday, be back around 3ish.
 
Things should spice up a bit today, as we should expect most folks to have an initial vote in by night fall (EST) so things can be discussed a bit and see where their thoughts are.
I'm expecting this, but I can't guarentee I'll be around...just stiring up as much of the activity as I can, and hoping I leave a big enough effect in case I do disapear to make a difference.

I agree somewhat. I myself am not convinced Beth is a pirate. I think someone saw the opportunity to use her avatar change as a reason to chase her down.
I questioned her on it but seriously,would you think that because she was sitting next to a small creek that would clue us into her being a Pirate?
I just wanted to see how many people jumped onto the avatar train. I think we have a few good possibilities for votes there.
I don't know if she's a pirate or not. The defensiveness gots me watching her, but in itself isn't enough...not yet.

Be more fun if you posted thoughts on the game and helped us get rid of the pirates or gave yourself away as one.
Him and many others.

Why does a train have to consist of votes. Its just as easy and probably more effective to have a thought train on a person. The more people that think it then the more people that will be willing to vote that way, especially with the number of sheep this game has had in the past. If you get enough sheep to end up voting for your person you don't even need to put a vote there. You could wait and say well they have enough votes I'm going to spotlight so and so for the next day.
I feel votes would have been a lot more obvious, but this "thought train" is just as effective and it appears more like that's what's happening. I hope the next day will give some people away, and I'll be able to spend my vote more effectively.
 
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For now I vote to make MG walk the plank

He is non committal to helping the town and has not expressed any real views.

Others that need watching for jumping heavily on the avatar switch are

DD
Grins
LG

HNs vote was more for her skimming and I haven't really seen him mention the avatar switch much.

Others that bear watching are
JM
JL
Beth

for the level of worry about a 1st post analysis

I'm not saying Beth isn't pirate, she was pretty defensive about a few things.

JM is pretty much going nuts over nothing when she does post

JL while he is kicking in the doors is also pretty quick to jump on every little thing.Says he is trying to be Charlie like, but evil Charlie or good Charlie?


Everyone is suspect at this time though so just because I highlighted a few people doesn't mean I'm more suspect of them then others. Just throwing out some early thoughts on play style.
 
I agree with your theory on "thought trains", Ice. It has come into play in several games, though usually you only see it talked about indirectly with how certain names are consistent between many peoples list and the narrowing down begins with the votes ending up there.
 
Well, that was alot of reading without much payoff. I am still pretty solid on my vote for Beth, but I'm growing concerned about a few other things.

Mg for one, he seems to be playing his own game and eluding to possibly being a power role. I dont think anyone but evil would try to avoid questioning by trying that and if true it'd be a dumb move.

JL's involvement is (as he admitted) much different than previous games, although I do remember days when he posted in flurries. I think he was evil that game though.

Judge & Lady G- I see "interaction" here. JM stated that she thought LC might be a past player, Lady G calls JM evil with no real proof, and then comes back to question if LC ight in fact be a past player. It's a bit early to try casting complex possibilities out there and would only serve to confuse things and while I agree that he's not playing the classic newb, so far he seems helpful so I'm more concerned about what's going on behind the scenes. I think this also may have been some minor early distancing so if one goes, they can point out that they "suspected" them.

It's early for a list, but here's mine for 1/2 way through day 1.

Beth
Mg
JM
LG
JL
 
I aslo do not understand why jpap and Malbri are not joining in yet, though I am sure a RL issue will be handily dropped...
 
WOW, I had a lot of catching up to do.. Off to a great start.

Have read through everything and havent seen anything that really screams mafia. Here is what has caught my eye the most.

LC, hes playing great for a newb. Seems very knowledgable about how the game works. Not saying one way or the other on him, just that its odd for a first time player. I will say this as well, not taking up for LC, I know hes not been in any other games, have known him for a while and can vouch that hes not been on the forums in a while.

Beth. Beth has caught my eye mainly for mentioning myself and Niko. I have no clue why that would need to be brought up in this game, Niko is not playing. And, why would she choose to bring a personal issue that is most definately history and does not concern her nor concern the game here?

Mg, think we should read carefully what he says, it may not be so much "nothingness".

Since this was a long read this am, I will be going back to read it again to make sure I haven't missed anything later today.
 
okay im only on page thirteen because I wasnt home until 11h30 yesterday, my brother needs the computer for homework purposes, I have to clean my room
I should be back soon
 
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